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  • tukan
    Technician
    • Nov 2008
    • 35

    [Misc] CLC 5151 Shift of colors

    Shift of color,
    regardless of their cassette,
    no matter what the paper.

    Is there a solution?

    Thanks in advance
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    drugstore-catalog.com
  • mrfixit51
    Lead Service Technician
    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2008
    • 1975

    #2
    Hard to believe that the arrow indicates direction of travel of paper. Is this blue print image in your example a form they are using? I would love to see a test print 31, which would show alignment of the 4 laser's. If the paper travel indication is wrong, I would suspect an ITB cleaning issue...
    "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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    • tukan
      Technician
      • Nov 2008
      • 35

      #3
      Test Print #31

      Test Print #31
      Attached Files
      drugstore-catalog.com

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      • mrfixit51
        Lead Service Technician
        1,000+ Posts
        • Oct 2008
        • 1975

        #4
        31 looks fine,,, I am still wondering if the blue is printed on the advance box, or is the blue print from a pre-printed form placed into the copier...
        "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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        • SCREWTAPE
          East Coast Imaging
          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 3396

          #5
          Is this off the glass or is it a print job?

          Looks like a laser issue.

          Black.

          The double imaging fault, reflection.

          This is not a registration issue. It seems to be isolated

          I would check the laser values for black.

          then check the laser itself.
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          • charm5496
            Service Manager
            Site Contributor
            1,000+ Posts
            • Apr 2008
            • 2387

            #6
            Have you cleared DC CON, Recammed the lasers, swapped the lasers?

            With the direction your double image is I am leaning towards DC-CON or laser assembly.
            Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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            • tukan
              Technician
              • Nov 2008
              • 35

              #7
              Strip in print only.
              The black laser unit was replaced and the data entered.
              DC controller has been cleared and partly filled with new software.
              The stripes occur only sporadically and only in print.
              When copy is all ok.

              Excuse my bad english.
              drugstore-catalog.com

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              • SCREWTAPE
                East Coast Imaging
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                2,500+ Posts
                • Jan 2009
                • 3396

                #8
                Strip?

                What strip?

                Are you still talking about the same problem?
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                • teckat
                  Field Supervisor
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 16092

                  #9
                  that is a Laser Issue / where is your service manual ??
                  **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                  • SCREWTAPE
                    East Coast Imaging
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                    • Jan 2009
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by teckat
                    that is a Laser Issue / where is your service manual ??
                    It sure does look like it right!
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                    • tukan
                      Technician
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 35

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                      Strip?

                      What strip?

                      Are you still talking about the same problem?
                      Excuse me, I mean shift.
                      drugstore-catalog.com

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                      • tukan
                        Technician
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 35

                        #12
                        Originally posted by teckat
                        that is a Laser Issue / where is your service manual ??
                        The black laser unit was replaced.The problem persists.
                        drugstore-catalog.com

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                        • teckat
                          Field Supervisor
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 16092

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tukan
                          The black laser unit was replaced.The problem persists.

                          I believe this model is similar to the iR 5185>

                          When replacing the laser unit, enter the values indicated in the label attached
                          on the upper surface of the new laser unit


                          Controlling the Laser Activation Timing.
                          laser beams are turned on/off by the combination of control signals from the DC controller PCB 2

                          following factors can displace images of individual colors:
                          - displacement of the photosensitive drum caused by replacement of the drum unit/toner container

                          - displacement in sub scanning direction
                          - displacement of laser path caused by replacement of laser unit

                          - displacement/angle in main scanning direction
                          - displacement in laser path length caused by changes in temperature inside machine

                          - variation in magnification

                          have u swapped the Laser in question to see if issue follows it / have u made single color grid printouts ??
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • tukan
                            Technician
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 35

                            #14
                            Originally posted by teckat
                            I believe this model is similar to the iR 5185>
                            When replacing the laser unit, enter the values indicated in the label attached
                            on the upper surface of the new laser unit

                            Controlling the Laser Activation Timing.
                            laser beams are turned on/off by the combination of control signals from the DC controller PCB 2

                            following factors can displace images of individual colors:
                            - displacement of the photosensitive drum caused by replacement of the drum unit/toner container

                            - displacement in sub scanning direction
                            - displacement of laser path caused by replacement of laser unit

                            - displacement/angle in main scanning direction
                            - displacement in laser path length caused by changes in temperature inside machine

                            - variation in magnification

                            have u swapped the Laser in question to see if issue follows it / have u made single color grid printouts ??
                            I will work off on Monday the list. DC Conroller and drum kit, I will replace it.

                            Thanks a lot.
                            drugstore-catalog.com

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                            • SCREWTAPE
                              East Coast Imaging
                              Site Contributor
                              2,500+ Posts
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3396

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tukan
                              I will work off on Monday the list. DC Controller and drum kit, I will replace it.

                              Thanks a lot.
                              I experienced this also. I was not aware that such a procedure was needed.

                              Laser maker identification
                              [1] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LA-MK-Y/M/C/K
                              Laser magnification
                              [2] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ1-Y/M/C/K
                              [3] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ2-Y/M/C/K
                              [4] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ3-Y/M/C/K
                              Laser phase difference
                              [5] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ4-Y/M/C/K
                              [6] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ4-Y/M/C/K
                              [7] COPIER > ADJUST > LASER > LDADJ4-Y/M/C/K
                              Attached Files
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