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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    Hey, just my 2 cents.. I have many of these in the field, and the best way I have found to avoid these intermittent jams(after everything is clean of course) is to set the scan rate to 600DPI, and compact PDF mode. Lock those settings in through the user settings. It slows the feeding and somewhat stabilizes the feeding. Work for me every time...
    For scanning issues this is very good workaround, however he has had jams when making copies and cleaning rollers and sensors is right starting point.
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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    Hey, just my 2 cents.. I have many of these in the field, and the best way I have found to avoid these intermittent jams(after everything is clean of course) is to set the scan rate to 600DPI, and compact PDF mode. Lock those settings in through the user settings. It slows the feeding and somewhat stabilizes the feeding. Work for me every time...
    If the feeder jams by changing the dpi isn't fixing the problem plus it uses to much memory
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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    other things may at play of course, but you have to set the file type to COMPACT PDF

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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    other things may at play of course, but you have to set the file type to COMPACT PDF
    Compact PDF file type settings has nothing to do with when you just make copy.
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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    still slows the feeding in my experience

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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    still slows the feeding in my experience
    It might slow the feeding and sort of "fix" it but in my 31 years fixing copiers, I've never had to resort to such a "bandaid" to actually fix the problem. If it won't feed at full speed (absolutely no reason it shouldn't if actually fixed), fix the issue instead of changing settings to make it work. IMO, that is a half-assed attempt at "fixing" the machine. Just fix it right and be done with it!
    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Well, if assuming the mods have been done to the 621, i.e. document set sensor actuator(new style) has been replaced, the torque spring in the Lever assembly front and rear have been replaced, the washer mod for the top cover has been installed, and the document reading motor (M1) is tensioned correctly, and you’re still not feeding consistently, then my comment is something to try….


    As for the input srvctec provided, my dad told me growing up that if you can't say something nice, find a way. He also told me that no matter how good you think you are, there's always someone better. Fortunately for me, you ain't it. 31 years working copiers? You had to throw that out there...That deserves the triple U, unremarkable, unprofessional, and uninspiring. And since you brought it up, yes I've only been at it for 28 years, and yes, I only received 3 gold (7050, 7085, 950),and 2 silver seals C351, C6501, at KMBS in Conn., and only service 180 accounts. Did I mention I own the company.... Assuming you know more than someone and letting everyone know it, only makes an ass out of you.

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    Arrow Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    Well, if assuming the mods have been done to the 621, i.e. document set sensor actuator(new style) has been replaced, the torque spring in the Lever assembly front and rear have been replaced, the washer mod for the top cover has been installed, and the document reading motor (M1) is tensioned correctly, and you’re still not feeding consistently, then my comment is something to try….


    As for the input srvctec provided, my dad told me growing up that if you can't say something nice, find a way. He also told me that no matter how good you think you are, there's always someone better. Fortunately for me, you ain't it. 31 years working copiers? You had to throw that out there...That deserves the triple U, unremarkable, unprofessional, and uninspiring. And since you brought it up, yes I've only been at it for 28 years, and yes, I only received 3 gold (7050, 7085, 950),and 2 silver seals C351, C6501, at KMBS in Conn., and only service 180 accounts. Did I mention I own the company.... Assuming you know more than someone and letting everyone know it, only makes an ass out of you.
    You're just coming here and throw a nice pile of things(crap) to consider.
    Sorry but where were you with your vast knowledge on KM devices before?
    Self isolating is OK nowadays but trolling across finished threads isn't mature, isn't it?
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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Broots View Post
    Well, if assuming the mods have been done to the 621, i.e. document set sensor actuator(new style) has been replaced, the torque spring in the Lever assembly front and rear have been replaced, the washer mod for the top cover has been installed, and the document reading motor (M1) is tensioned correctly, and you’re still not feeding consistently, then my comment is something to try….


    As for the input srvctec provided, my dad told me growing up that if you can't say something nice, find a way. He also told me that no matter how good you think you are, there's always someone better. Fortunately for me, you ain't it. 31 years working copiers? You had to throw that out there...That deserves the triple U, unremarkable, unprofessional, and uninspiring. And since you brought it up, yes I've only been at it for 28 years, and yes, I only received 3 gold (7050, 7085, 950),and 2 silver seals C351, C6501, at KMBS in Conn., and only service 180 accounts. Did I mention I own the company.... Assuming you know more than someone and letting everyone know it, only makes an ass out of you.

    Hey srvtec thought about posting just about the same thing, restrained myself from it, nice to know what kind of reply i would have gotten.
    To bad he did not take that advice to heart.

    You can work on copiers for 3 months and still understand that its not a fix to the problem. If it can't run at 300DPI same as for copying then its pointless to try a work around.
    And I do love a good work around. Compact PDF would be a post process like any other format the raw scanner data gets changed to so that will do nothing for the problem.

    I like these doc feeders they are reliable and easy to get running again the only problem is that little punch scrap catcher its got underneath the first photo reflective sensor.
    O another one is the mylar that guides the double sided back.

    So the OP got helped here so any other suggestions ceased to help past that point.
    Last edited by allan; 04-09-2020 at 12:12 AM.
    Whatever

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    Re: C223 Paper jam in ADF unit

    yes, I’m actually really sorry I had to dump that on your thread. It just irks me since I’m pretty humble, when somebody trashes an idea if someone else is trying to use to help. Private message me with your phone number and we can talk. If you work on konicas exclusively I think I could be of help to you and my phone is always on

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