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dunno
08-19-2019, 09:59 PM
Greetings,

I am searching for most reliable and cost efficient (in terms of service) machine for small number of copies (~3000). Are those 2 models worth their price or should I go for Xerox B1025 for half the price.

blazebusiness
08-21-2019, 09:06 PM
Greetings,

I am searching for most reliable and cost efficient (in terms of service) machine for small number of copies (~3000). Are those 2 models worth their price or should I go for Xerox B1025 for half the price.

I wouldn't favor getting the 226 (Bizhub 215 series here in the USA).

Konica 4052's (Lexmark) are ok units for the money. Check the toner prices on that Xerox B1025 and Konica 4052 in your region. Sometimes machines cost less but they more than make up for the low price by charging a lot more for the toner/supplies. So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate.

REGSIS
08-23-2019, 04:41 PM
Bizhub 226 in my opinios is more reliable, much cheaper regarding per page cost and also service and parts.

Cost of toner for bh 4050 are 5x higher (or more)

At last 226 is A3 machine, 4050 is A4.

P.S. Soon bizhub 226i will arrive, with new larger LCD display. Maybe worth waiting for. Who knows?

blazebusiness
08-23-2019, 09:24 PM
Bizhub 226 in my opinios is more reliable, much cheaper regarding per page cost and also service and parts.

Cost of toner for bh 4050 are 5x higher (or more)

At last 226 is A3 machine, 4050 is A4.

P.S. Soon bizhub 226i will arrive, with new larger LCD display. Maybe worth waiting for. Who knows?

A better display certainly might change my recommendation.
You are correct about the 226 (BH 215) cheaper cost per page. I took care to address that when I stated above:
"So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate."

That being said, I would not call the 226 very reliable. The model for us has needed more repairs than many other models. And they have not held their value. There are tons of super low mileage units at the wholesalers and they are not selling very well.
This person is probably just looking for a cheap low volume copier/printer/scanner. The speed and capability and good display of the BH 4052 series would keep them happier.

Toxic
08-26-2019, 09:36 PM
My favorite is 226 and i think its ok machine ,never had too much problems with them.
DR,DV change on every 80k and complete iu assy on 160-200k.
Recently i retired one 215 with about 700k on counter.
It is still working but location is far from me and give them new 227 instead.
Monthly volume was 20-30k without problems for a few years.

dunno
08-26-2019, 09:48 PM
This person is probably just looking for a cheap low volume copier/printer/scanner. The speed and capability and good display of the BH 4052 series would keep them happier.

Well, we are looking for low volume machine, certainly below 2000$, which will last for years, cheap in service. As those Konica models are having mixed reviews, I'm considering also Kyocera ECOSYS models: M2040dn, M3145idn, M3655idn, can you recommend any of those?

Toxic
08-26-2019, 10:35 PM
I work only with KM so cant recommend any other brand,sorry.

jwai
08-27-2019, 04:40 PM
However, the 4052 series still have white lines print out easily, same as previous 4050......
same design toner hopper unit.

copier tech
08-27-2019, 06:12 PM
I wouldn't favor getting the 226 (Bizhub 215 series here in the USA).

Konica 4052's (Lexmark) are ok units for the money. Check the toner prices on that Xerox B1025 and Konica 4052 in your region. Sometimes machines cost less but they more than make up for the low price by charging a lot more for the toner/supplies. So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate.


Apologies for hijacking the thread but Is the C226/C266 known as any other model in the USA or UK?

tsbservice
08-27-2019, 06:29 PM
Apologies for hijacking the thread but Is the C226/C266 known as any other model in the USA or UK?


I don't think so.
Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA (https://www.biz.konicaminolta.com/colour/c266_c226/spec.html), I see it like C227, but there should be some differences:confused:

copier tech
08-27-2019, 07:23 PM
I don't think so.
Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA (https://www.biz.konicaminolta.com/colour/c266_c226/spec.html), I see it like C227, but there should be some differences:confused:

They look identical same issue with the C281 I dont see any info on this model here in the uk.

jwai
08-28-2019, 03:41 PM
I don't think so.
Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA (https://www.biz.konicaminolta.com/colour/c266_c226/spec.html), I see it like C227, but there should be some differences:confused:

The C227 supports optional fax and hard disk.

Bix
08-28-2019, 04:15 PM
I've never heard of 226 here in Europe
In any case I would opt for 227 (226?). In the event of breakdowns, maintenance is easier. Toner is even cheaper than A4.

Toxic
08-28-2019, 09:01 PM
I've never heard of 226 here in Europe
In any case I would opt for 227 (226?). In the event of breakdowns, maintenance is easier. Toner is even cheaper than A4.
I am in Europe too and we have first 215 then 226 and they are very popular,not so expensive,easy to maintain...
You mean never sold or work with this machines,strange,i thought Europe have the same center for all countries,i think its in Germany.

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