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stan780953
12-06-2019, 11:28 AM
Hi All,

Is there anyone using an alternative feed/separate roller the common red one used in most KM devices?

Thank you.

Toxic
12-06-2019, 12:32 PM
I cant see need for looking replacement when OEM work just fine and not expensive.
Just to mention, i notice old machines (420,501...) paper feed rollers lasts much longer then on newer series.

rigthejig
12-06-2019, 01:02 PM
I cant see need for looking replacement when OEM work just fine and not expensive.
Just to mention, i notice old machines (420,501...) paper feed rollers lasts much longer then on newer series.

WE use rollers that we fit to the existing shafts, we remove old rubber and fit these, part no A00J563600, that we buy from a supplies company, they last about 200K, and can be fitted in either direction.

tsbservice
12-06-2019, 01:20 PM
I cant see need for looking replacement when OEM work just fine and not expensive.
Just to mention, i notice old machines (420,501...) paper feed rollers lasts much longer then on newer series.
I second that, but the world is wide people are different ;)

allan
12-06-2019, 04:00 PM
With my experience on 3de party rollers, the answer is no they are pretty crap.

REGSIS
12-06-2019, 09:33 PM
I cant see need for looking replacement when OEM work just fine and not expensive.
Just to mention, i notice old machines (420,501...) paper feed rollers lasts much longer then on newer series.

OEM only. Yes old ones last twice longer but are twice expensive.
Use the one you prefer, they are compatible!

Toxic
12-07-2019, 03:04 AM
Yup, i know they are compatible but new roller type is ok with life about 100k without problems for about $3-4 for piece.
Rollers price is so meaningless in cost calculation compare to everything else much expensive (toner,drum,belt,fusing...) and i cant understand why somebody using compatible rollers anyway.
When i said this above i refer to A3 mfps and production series but for A4 mfps is other storie.
I dont have much expirience with new A4 mfps but recently i ask about price for ADF pick up rollers bizhub 4050,4020... and shocked when get price from KM about $120.
This rollers have twice price of imaging unit for example,not real.
After that even more hate that small pieces of crap mfps.
For this series i would buy compatible rollers if somebody have infos because this "official" price is insane?

blackcat4866
12-07-2019, 03:37 AM
Yup, i know they are compatible but new roller type is ok with life about 100k without problems for about $3-4 for piece.
Rollers price is so meaningless in cost calculation compare to everything else much expensive (toner,drum,belt,fusing...) and i cant understand why somebody using compatible rollers anyway.
When i said this above i refer to A3 mfps and production series but for A4 mfps is other storie.
I dont have much expirience with new A4 mfps but recently i ask about price for ADF pick up rollers bizhub 4050,4020... and shocked when get price from KM about $120.
This rollers have twice price of imaging unit for example,not real.
After that even more hate that small pieces of crap mfps.
For this series i would buy compatible rollers if somebody have infos because this "official" price is insane?


You might look at the Lexmark OEM parts. They ARE for the most part Lexmark rebadges, and the only difference is black, not gray rubber.

rrrohan
12-07-2019, 08:17 AM
WE use rollers that we fit to the existing shafts, we remove old rubber and fit these, part no A00J563600, that we buy from a supplies company, they last about 200K, and can be fitted in either direction.

yeah i dont bother carrying A108563900 rollers anymore i just pull the rubber off a A00j563600

copier tech
12-07-2019, 01:28 PM
I cant see need for looking replacement when OEM work just fine and not expensive.
Just to mention, i notice old machines (420,501...) paper feed rollers lasts much longer then on newer series.

Exactly the OEM do 200K and over if you’re on a budget only replace the feed & fit the old feed roller to the sep.

EarthKmTech
12-07-2019, 01:44 PM
For those with limited space - you dont need to carry or use the old a00j red rollers anymore. Many of our techs now fit the pink, clippy rollers with grey cores (a64 part number) to everything.

You can pull out this grey core and use it in place of the a108 rollers too - also without issue.

I have a c360i already with 100k on it so that will be the first i series i'll have to change rollers on at some stage - I already have their rollers and other parts in stock but have not needed them yet. (except for a factory destroyed belt that needed replacement)

copier tech
12-07-2019, 01:52 PM
For those with limited space - you dont need to carry or use the old a00j red rollers anymore. Many of our techs now fit the pink, clippy rollers with grey cores (a64 part number) to everything.

You can pull out this grey core and use it in place of the a108 rollers too - also without issue.

I have a c360i already with 100k on it so that will be the first i series i'll have to change rollers on at some stage - I already have their rollers and other parts in stock but have not needed them yet. (except for a factory destroyed belt that needed replacement)

“Limited space” even my London walking engineers carry a pack of 10!

tsbservice
12-07-2019, 02:27 PM
For those with limited space - you dont need to carry or use the old a00j red rollers anymore. Many of our techs now fit the pink, clippy rollers with grey cores (a64 part number) to everything.

You can pull out this grey core and use it in place of the a108 rollers too - also without issue.

I have a c360i already with 100k on it so that will be the first i series i'll have to change rollers on at some stage - I already have their rollers and other parts in stock but have not needed them yet. (except for a factory destroyed belt that needed replacement)

Good advice, those a64j are even low priced plus 50% more expected life.

copyman
12-07-2019, 09:24 PM
I use mostly China rollers. Like other poster I put them on oem shafts. If you get them from the right source they are same quality as oem. Wouldn't be surprised if they are coming from same factory.

I do use only OEM for black ribbed roller.

Where the real saving is using the aftermarket rollers on ADF's , no way in hell I'm paying $30 for a paper feed roller, A143563100 (https://www.precisionroller.com/a143563100-for-konica-minolta/part_number.html), etc !!!!!

EarthKmTech
12-07-2019, 11:05 PM
“Limited space” even my London walking engineers carry a pack of 10!

My bag contains everything but the kitchen sink as I absolutely detest having to walk back to the car unless necessary.

I even went from obese to skinny (by choice lost 35kg) and still hate walking back to the car. Obviously when belts or fusers etc are needed its still unavoidable.

allan
12-08-2019, 08:11 AM
For those with limited space - you dont need to carry or use the old a00j red rollers anymore. Many of our techs now fit the pink, clippy rollers with grey cores (a64 part number) to everything.

You can pull out this grey core and use it in place of the a108 rollers too - also without issue.

I have a c360i already with 100k on it so that will be the first i series i'll have to change rollers on at some stage - I already have their rollers and other parts in stock but have not needed them yet. (except for a factory destroyed belt that needed replacement)

Please can you share the full part number for those, out of the loop with the newest stuff out there.
:rolleyes:

tsbservice
12-08-2019, 11:27 AM
Please can you share the full part number for those, out of the loop with the newest stuff out there.
:rolleyes:
Here you are:
A64J564101

copier tech
12-08-2019, 12:46 PM
Here you are:
A64J564101


That's the 8 series roller its more expensive that the original A00J563600

tsbservice
12-08-2019, 03:03 PM
Here you are:
A64J564101


That's the 8 series roller its more expensive that the original A00J563600

No, here that is not for 8 series. That is feed roller for BH C250i.
A00J563600 is feed/sep roller for C258.

copier tech
12-08-2019, 03:35 PM
No, here that is not for 8 series. That is feed roller for BH C250i.
A00J563600 is feed/sep roller for C258.
In The UK the 8 series come with the clip in rollers A64J564101

Bix
12-09-2019, 11:10 AM
Are there any advantages to putting iSeries rollers in the 8 series?
I started with KM which provided three identical rolls for everything, then 2 + 1 and now all different

srvctec
12-12-2019, 05:19 PM
That's the 8 series roller its more expensive that the original A00J563600






Agreed


No, here that is not for 8 series. That is feed roller for BH C250i.
A00J563600 is feed/sep roller for C258.

Here in the US, the 8 series (C458) parts manual I just looked in, has the A64J564101 listed as the stock feed roller.


In The UK the 8 series come with the clip in rollers A64J564101

Same here in the US.

tsbservice
12-13-2019, 07:17 PM
Here in the US, the 8 series (C458) parts manual I just looked in, has the A64J564101 listed as the stock feed roller.
Same here in the US.
Check C258 parts manual, you may be surprised ;)

srvctec
12-13-2019, 11:14 PM
Check C258 parts manual, you may be surprised ;)

That's what I figured, the smaller machines held onto the older rollers.

Dev_nos
09-29-2021, 03:49 PM
I use mostly China rollers. Like other poster I put them on oem shafts. If you get them from the right source they are same quality as oem. Wouldn't be surprised if they are coming from same factory.

I do use only OEM for black ribbed roller.

Where the real saving is using the aftermarket rollers on ADF's , no way in hell I'm paying $30 for a paper feed roller, A143563100 (https://www.precisionroller.com/a143563100-for-konica-minolta/part_number.html), etc !!!!!

Can you give the name of your China Supplier please?
Thank you!

Synthohol
09-29-2021, 11:09 PM
A00j563600 rollers are like 8 bucks if you are a legit dealer or can buy from one ;)

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