Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

[dkaliahsan]

Hey Guys,

My Minolta C6100 is getting paper Jams at the M3 section, its not getting past that section, is there a solution for this, I got an error code of C-0130 when doing the paperless run test.

[blackcat4866]

What jam code? =^..^=

[dkaliahsan]

What jam code? =^..^=
The Code I got is C-0130

[blackcat4866]

The C-0130 is a PF-707m roller pressure release abnormality.

With larger media, rather than maintaining a buckle between the rollers of the paper pickup unit, this paper feeder releases the pinch roller pressure to allow the media to pull through.

I had this erro on a bizhub C1060:

"C0130" error message, with PF-707, won't clear.

Roller pressure release motor M10 cannot reach home position. Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 (was heavily caked with translucent grease). When cleaned, machine comes to ready. It feeds a few sheets before coding out with loud gear noise. The 2nd tooth from the flat on sector gear 36T is worn/flattened.

Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 in a cup of alcohol. Replace release cam (A55C 7137 00), and release sector gear 36T (A55C 7195 00).

[dkaliahsan]

The C-0130 is a PF-707m roller pressure release abnormality.

With larger media, rather than maintaining a buckle between the rollers of the paper pickup unit, this paper feeder releases the pinch roller pressure to allow the media to pull through.

I had this erro on a bizhub C1060:


"C0130" error message, with PF-707, won't clear.

Roller pressure release motor M10 cannot reach home position. Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 (was heavily caked with translucent grease). When cleaned, machine comes to ready. It feeds a few sheets before coding out with loud gear noise. The 2nd tooth from the flat on sector gear 36T is worn/flattened.

Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 in a cup of alcohol. Replace release cam (A55C 7137 00), and release sector gear 36T (A55C 7195 00).

Is There some diagram or pictures of what I should look for?

[blackcat4866]

Respectfully, you might take a look at the service manual. =^..^=

[BillyCarpenter]

The C-0130 is a PF-707m roller pressure release abnormality.

With larger media, rather than maintaining a buckle between the rollers of the paper pickup unit, this paper feeder releases the pinch roller pressure to allow the media to pull through.

I had this erro on a bizhub C1060:

"C0130" error message, with PF-707, won't clear.

Roller pressure release motor M10 cannot reach home position. Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 (was heavily caked with translucent grease). When cleaned, machine comes to ready. It feeds a few sheets before coding out with loud gear noise. The 2nd tooth from the flat on sector gear 36T is worn/flattened.

Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 in a cup of alcohol. Replace release cam (A55C 7137 00), and release sector gear 36T (A55C 7195 00).


I bow before thee. ;)

[dkaliahsan]

Respectfully, you might take a look at the service manual. =^..^=

One more quick question if the machine isn't leveled correct? can i get a paperjam?, or that has nothing to do with it?

[blackcat4866]

One more quick question if the machine isn't leveled correct? can i get a paperjam?, or that has nothing to do with it?

It's unrelated to leveling. It's a simple mechanical issue that you won't see until you do some disassembly.
And the C-0130 is and error code, not a jam code. There is a difference. =^..^=

[Toxic]

Judging by level of your questions i think it will be the best for you to call some technician who knows what he is doing.

[dkaliahsan]

So I solved this situation, now I am getting a new error Code C-5109?

[Synthohol]

Code
C-5109
Classification
PF-707m, PF-711: Centering sensor abnormality
Cause
The centering sensor (PS40) of PF fails to detect the paper for more than specified time.
Measures to take when alert occurs
The main body and the option stop immediately.
Estimated abnormal parts
• PFU drive board (PFUDB)
• Centering sensor (PS40)
Correction
Note
▪ The message "Please call service" is displayed on the panel.
Solution
1. Prior confirmation
• Check that the centering sensor (PS40) is installed correctly.
2. Execute the IO Check (18-01) of the centering sensor (PS40) when A3 papers are in the center of paper path in the horizontal conveyance
section.
3. When the result of the IO Check in the step 2 is normal, PS40 is not abnormal. Go on to step 5.
For details of IO check results, refer to "Table 1: Result check."
4. Check the connector connections, CN118 of PFUDB, CN432 (relay connector), CN433 (relay connector), CN437 (relay connector), CN410
of PS40, and the wiring between PFUDB and PS40. Then, repair it when there is any abnormality.
5. Replace PS40.
6. Replace PFUDB.
Table 1: Result check


Result check
Normal
Abnormal


START
About 4500
65535
Deviate from "normal" significantly


STOP
About 4500
65535
Deviate from "normal" significantly


Faulty part isolation DIPSW
Control while detached

[dkaliahsan]

Code
C-5109
Classification
PF-707m, PF-711: Centering sensor abnormality
Cause
The centering sensor (PS40) of PF fails to detect the paper for more than specified time.
Measures to take when alert occurs
The main body and the option stop immediately.
Estimated abnormal parts
• PFU drive board (PFUDB)
• Centering sensor (PS40)
Correction
Note
▪ The message "Please call service" is displayed on the panel.
Solution
1. Prior confirmation
• Check that the centering sensor (PS40) is installed correctly.
2. Execute the IO Check (18-01) of the centering sensor (PS40) when A3 papers are in the center of paper path in the horizontal conveyance
section.
3. When the result of the IO Check in the step 2 is normal, PS40 is not abnormal. Go on to step 5.
For details of IO check results, refer to "Table 1: Result check."
4. Check the connector connections, CN118 of PFUDB, CN432 (relay connector), CN433 (relay connector), CN437 (relay connector), CN410
of PS40, and the wiring between PFUDB and PS40. Then, repair it when there is any abnormality.
5. Replace PS40.
6. Replace PFUDB.
Table 1: Result check


Result check
Normal
Abnormal


START
About 4500
65535
Deviate from "normal" significantly


STOP
About 4500
65535
Deviate from "normal" significantly


Faulty part isolation DIPSW
Control while detached

I got 65535 does that mean the sensor is bad??

[Synthohol]

significantly

[blackcat4866]

Does it even have a centering sensor? I doubt it.

I seem to recall that the centering sensor assembly must be installed when the PF707m is used on a C6100.
=^..^=

[reckless]

Does it even have a centering sensor? I doubt it.

I seem to recall that the centering sensor assembly must be installed when the PF707m is used on a C6100.
=^..^=

What does the centering sensor do?

[blackcat4866]

They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:

https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/konica-minolta/143534-pf-707-a-2.html#post1966986
=^..^=

[reckless]

They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:

https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/konica-minolta/143534-pf-707-a-2.html#post1966986
=^..^=

It wasn't inside my PF-707m and I bought it brand new.

[blackcat4866]

So there isn't one. I think I know what the problem is. =^..^=

[dkaliahsan]

The C-0130 is a PF-707m roller pressure release abnormality.

With larger media, rather than maintaining a buckle between the rollers of the paper pickup unit, this paper feeder releases the pinch roller pressure to allow the media to pull through.

I had this erro on a bizhub C1060:

"C0130" error message, with PF-707, won't clear.

Roller pressure release motor M10 cannot reach home position. Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 (was heavily caked with translucent grease). When cleaned, machine comes to ready. It feeds a few sheets before coding out with loud gear noise. The 2nd tooth from the flat on sector gear 36T is worn/flattened.

Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 in a cup of alcohol. Replace release cam (A55C 7137 00), and release sector gear 36T (A55C 7195 00).


what if there is we no noise of the gears grinding or the gears are fine could it be the motor gone bad?.

[blackcat4866]

what if there is we no noise of the gears grinding or the gears are fine could it be the motor gone bad?.

I suppose so. Or the sensor may not be functioning. You can test the sensor and motor, yes? =^..^=

[dkaliahsan]

So basically when i do the IO test 28-16 comes up as abnormal and i believe the sensor is working because I'm not getting the sensor error code the error code is c-0130 and I replaced the two parts that you suggested so i believe the motor M10 is malfunctioning? when I do the running test immediately i get the code C-0130.

[blackcat4866]

I think that I'd put my meter on the motor leads and check to see that you're getting 24vdc (I think it's 24vdc?). If you have voltage then yes, the motor is bad. If you don't have voltage it could be an ICP on the board.

You can also check the photointerrupter. With it live, determine which of your terminals are:
* ground
* 5vdc input
* sensor output
The ground and 5vdc will always stay the same. When you block the sensor output should change from ~0.1vdc to ~5.0vdc (or vice versa) when metered against frame ground. It's the change that you're watching for.

=^..^=

[dkaliahsan]

What jam code? =^..^=


the jam code I have is J-3140, paper will not pass the m3 part of my Minolta, and i recently received the centering sensor and installed it but noticed for the centering sensor to be installed I would have to disconnect the two other sensors (compensating sensors). Is there a way to have all the sensors work together instead of just having either the centering censor or the compensating sensor working, I have a C6100 Minolta, was wondering if I can get guidance on this? I have attached two photos as well. In the first picture you will notice there is two wires just hanging to the side and the other two are connected now these pairs of wires control each of the sensors, so the pair I have connected I believe are the ones for the compensating sensor which in the second picture is the two square ones that are above and below the centering sensor, now how do I have the centering sensor plugged in or where would I, because I am getting the C-0130 code as well as C-5109. I have replaced the motor, gears and everything for C-0130 however the code is still there, and for the C-5109 there was a whole other forum on someone questioning to installing a centering sensor however where would it plug in??
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[reckless]

I suppose so. Or the sensor may not be functioning. You can test the sensor and motor, yes? =^..^=

Is this sensor not connected properly?

[reckless]

or maybe its something else

[dkaliahsan]

or maybe its something else
I wanted to know which sensor is the one that should be connected the two small ones or the huge center one. Because it is not possible to have all the sensors plugged in.

[reckless]

I wanted to know which sensor is the one that should be connected the two small ones or the huge center one. Because it is not possible to have all the sensors plugged in.

I would think all sensors need to be plugged in. KM wouldn't design it so empty connectors are hanging in the air?

[dkaliahsan]

I would think all sensors need to be plugged in. KM wouldn't design it so empty connectors are hanging in the air?

When the PF-707m arrived the box did not have the big long sensor just the two above and below. Which was weird but in the installation manual its confusing because it says install it, but the PF-707 never came with the middle sensor.

[blackcat4866]

They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:

https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/konica-minolta/143534-pf-707-a-2.html#post1966986
=^..^=

I comes bundled with the main body. Have a look at that reference post. =^..^=

[dkaliahsan]

I comes bundled with the main body. Have a look at that reference post. =^..^=
The weird this is if I connect that sensor the two sensors that are already connected would need to be disconnected there’s no way to have all the connections in place.