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  • jwai
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    bizhub C287 C5356

    Hello,

    One bizhub 287 B/W copier displayed C5356 on warming up process.
    I checked the fan on right door, no turning on, replaced a new one however no change.
    The service manual said check ICP on MFPB, it's common case cause of this board?
  • allan
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    Re: bizhub C287 C5356

    That should be F12E. HV unit uses the same ICP also F12E.
    Does the fan spin at all at any time? It will start to spin up and then check for the lock signal.
    As per the manual you can check REM and LOCK signal.
    Whatever

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    • jwai
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      #3
      Re: bizhub C287 C5356

      Originally posted by allan
      That should be F12E. HV unit uses the same ICP also F12E.
      Does the fan spin at all at any time? It will start to spin up and then check for the lock signal.
      As per the manual you can check REM and LOCK signal.
      I marked a dot on fan and turned on machine until error code displayed, opened right door and saw it didn't rotate.

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      • allan
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        Re: bizhub C287 C5356

        Originally posted by jwai
        I marked a dot on fan and turned on machine until error code displayed, opened right door and saw it didn't rotate.
        Do you get 24V? Putting the tester on DCV and max hold works great for this.
        But probably easier just to check the ICP.
        Whatever

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        • jwai
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          Re: bizhub C287 C5356

          Originally posted by allan
          Do you get 24V? Putting the tester on DCV and max hold works great for this.
          But probably easier just to check the ICP.
          This day I visited another customer for the operation of FM2 fan motor, and found that it didn't rotate from warm up to ready to copy.
          I checked service manual and prove that, so I checked pin6 on CN29E no DC24V.
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          • allan
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            Re: bizhub C287 C5356

            Originally posted by jwai
            This day I visited another customer for the operation of FM2 fan motor, and found that it didn't rotate from warm up to ready to copy.
            I checked service manual and prove that, so I checked pin6 on CN29E no DC24V.
            Could you locate any relevant ICP's? Probably only rotates during operation then.
            Whatever

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            • allan
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              Re: bizhub C287 C5356

              Output check code 42 multi code 2 and 3 is for full and half speed.
              Whatever

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              • allan
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                Only runs at initial operation and while printing.
                Its got relay connectors so if all else fails check continuity between MFPB and fan.
                Whatever

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                • jwai
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                  Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                  Originally posted by allan
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                  Only runs at initial operation and while printing.
                  Its got relay connectors so if all else fails check continuity between MFPB and fan.
                  Yesterday I checked harness, reconnected CN21 and CN27 no success.
                  The error code displayed when warm up performed 5 seconds, so consider it may be MFPB problem?

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                  • Walterj
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                    #10
                    Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                    Originally posted by jwai
                    Hello,

                    One bizhub 287 B/W copier displayed C5356 on warming up process.
                    I checked the fan on right door, no turning on, replaced a new one however no change.
                    The service manual said check ICP on MFPB, it's common case cause of this board?

                    Hello
                    Good day
                    Actually, this error is quite common in the first Bizhub 227/287/367 equipment.
                    I recommend you change the FM2 cooling fan and check the ICP12E that is located in the MFPB, surely that ICP must be open and you will have to replace it.
                    Then maybe the prints come out blank in that case you will also have to check the HV and check which electronic device is damaged.
                    It is recommended that you have your equipment in the version of FW G00-X8 or G00-X4
                    Luck

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                    • jwai
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                      Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                      Originally posted by Walterj
                      Hello
                      Good day
                      Actually, this error is quite common in the first Bizhub 227/287/367 equipment.
                      I recommend you change the FM2 cooling fan and check the ICP12E that is located in the MFPB, surely that ICP must be open and you will have to replace it.
                      Then maybe the prints come out blank in that case you will also have to check the HV and check which electronic device is damaged.
                      It is recommended that you have your equipment in the version of FW G00-X8 or G00-X4
                      Luck
                      Thank you for your advice. I tried to replace fan motor FM2 but not success, updated firmware to G00-Y3.
                      If ICP opened that means I should replace MFPB right? such I can't buy ICP individually.

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                      • allan
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                        Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                        Originally posted by jwai
                        Thank you for your advice. I tried to replace fan motor FM2 but not success, updated firmware to G00-Y3.
                        If ICP opened that means I should replace MFPB right? such I can't buy ICP individually.
                        Yes you should replace the ICP. The are marked with letter values like I,L,M. You should be able to order them.
                        Find an old board with the same value on or just bridge it out instead of replacing the MFPB.
                        Whatever

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                        • jwai
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                          Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                          Unluckily I don't have spare board for ICP replacement, finally I need to purchase an used MFPB.
                          If I replace it, need MFP reset tool? This is my first time to do that on this model.

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                          • jwai
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                            Could anyone provide me MFP reset tool of bizhub 287?
                            Thanks a lot.

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                            • feedot
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                              #15
                              Re: bizhub C287 C5356

                              Originally posted by walterj
                              Hello,Good afternoonIn fact, this error is quite common in the first bizhub 227/287/367 hardware.I recommend that you replace the fm2 cooling fan and check the icp12e that is in the mfpb, for sure this icp should be open and you will have to replace it.Then, perhaps, the prints turn out to be empty, in which case you will also have to check the hv and find out which electronic device is damaged.It is recommended that you have the hardware version fw g00-x8 or g00-x4luck
                              Good afternoon. Tell me what you need to check hv. Thank you in advance.

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