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Jcrack_corn
11-26-2022, 05:22 PM
C454e
Hi! Thanks for the help as usual. Would this be a transfer belt/roller problem. There is obvious cyan toner on the transfer roller.

New cyan drum kit, new cyan developer powder, genuine toner. Prints were fine for ~1000 pages after imaging unit refurbs. This is a new problem.
I have the service manual and access to donor machines to keep this one running (no tech within 60 miles, it is what it is). Thank you all very much for guidance.

55641

blackcat4866
11-26-2022, 06:23 PM
It looks like it's dumping cyan developer to me. Are the resulting prints gritty? I suspect yes. Contributing factors could be drums way past yield. =^..^=

copyman
11-27-2022, 03:16 AM
+1 on Cyan developer problem. No way it's a transfer roller problem. You may see cyan build up on the transfer roller but not the problem.

Very common for 4 series dumping developer, usually cyan. Most often due to over life cyan drum. But keep in mind any over life drum or transfer belt can cause HV leak and cause "any" other color developer to dump.

What do you mean "new cyan drum kit"? did you rebuild drum? Did you replace drum, blade, grid & saw tooth charger? Developer had to be aftermarket because Kon/Min doesn't offer developer powder for these models. Did you check levels under state confirmation in service mode after replacing developer powder and see if in the 6.5 range?

tsbservice
11-27-2022, 06:33 AM
+2
Unfortunately could be very expensive to repair if you are not experienced.

copier tech
11-27-2022, 10:18 AM
C454e
Hi! Thanks for the help as usual. Would this be a transfer belt/roller problem. There is obvious cyan toner on the transfer roller.

New cyan drum kit, new cyan developer powder, genuine toner. Prints were fine for ~1000 pages after imaging unit refurbs. This is a new problem.
I have the service manual and access to donor machines to keep this one running (no tech within 60 miles, it is what it is). Thank you all very much for guidance.

55641

Fit genuine Konica Minolta image & developer units, most likely you have used incompatible cyan developer. Where did you purchase it from ?

copyman
11-27-2022, 01:05 PM
You can use a less expensive "genuine" black developer unit and change it to color. Search this forum on very easy procedure. But once again before doing this you have to correct the over life / bad drums / transfer belt or the new developer unit will crash and you will be right back where you started!

Jcrack_corn
11-27-2022, 03:26 PM
Thank you all! For drums, only drum and wiper changed. But I have several machines (224, 454, 554) and I now think that this drum was actually not rebuilt. I know for sure this developer was recharged. So will rebuild this drum, will recheck developer weight, can rechip both and will calibrate and see what happens. Hack work I know, but the best I can do with no good tech access and new imaging/dev units cost more than machine value.

thank you all!


+1 on Cyan developer problem. No way it's a transfer roller problem. You may see cyan build up on the transfer roller but not the problem.

Very common for 4 series dumping developer, usually cyan. Most often due to over life cyan drum. But keep in mind any over life drum or transfer belt can cause HV leak and cause "any" other color developer to dump.

What do you mean "new cyan drum kit"? did you rebuild drum? Did you replace drum, blade, grid & saw tooth charger? Developer had to be aftermarket because Kon/Min doesn't offer developer powder for these models. Did you check levels under state confirmation in service mode after replacing developer powder and see if in the 6.5 range?

copier addict
11-27-2022, 11:07 PM
Thank you all! For drums, only drum and wiper changed. But I have several machines (224, 454, 554) and I now think that this drum was actually not rebuilt. I know for sure this developer was recharged. So will rebuild this drum, will recheck developer weight, can rechip both and will calibrate and see what happens. Hack work I know, but the best I can do with no good tech access and new imaging/dev units cost more than machine value.

thank you all!

Replace the developer unit with a genuine Konica Minolta unit.
Rebuilding a failing dev unit does not fix it

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