Updating Fiery

[reckless]

Is it better to update a Fiery or not if there are no known issues? In the past KM advised against it as it causes more problems.

My latest Fiery seems to give all kinds of warnings and request to update. I feel like it's their way to make more money by causing more problems.

[Synthohol]

what fiery/model?

[reckless]

poll is for all fiery models in general

I have a fiery IC-313

[KenB]

Only install the updates provided by EFI.

DO NOT install the ones from Microsoft.

It’s not that the MS updates are bad per se, but a number of them will break the Fiery software.

The EFI updates are no different fro the Microsoft ones, it’s just that they test each one before giving it the proverbial nod.

[reckless]

10-20 years ago KM advised against updating the fiery as it wasn't necessary in their eyes. It felt as if Fiery didn't test them properly before releasing in that era. I updated mine recently due to annoying reminders from fiery. The problem is it keeps finding new updates/reminders every few weeks/month. I get super scared as I vaguely remember bricking an old fiery when it was being updated on an old KM cf-2002. KM took it back to be replaced. I opted out of a service contract and my fiery is very expensive even used. It really irritates me how fiery's dont work between sister models built on same tech.

[emujo2]

Office Fiery..almost never, production Fierys, patches as needed, MS updates almost never. Most of the time it's due to a workstation upgrade. Production customers use and understand CWS and the update process through here is pretty straight forward. E

[wjurls]

If you must try, I suggest putting in a new hard drive and load the system software from scratch.
Set the old drive aside in an anti static bag in case the SHTF and you need to re-install it.

[techandtrader]

I would only do it if the tech pub that comes with the update made sense for the environment. Its been awhile since I studied them but if there are no language problems then....why? Be proactive for language problems? Then the shop and customer need to agree on the plan.

[Synthohol]

if it does everything its supposed to id leave it alone.
if it aint broke, dont fix it.

[KenB]

A lot of times Fieries throw red flags on security audits.

I've had more than one or two IT admins freak out about that.

While part of that may be a risk they have to accept if they want it to work, there is no point in pushing it to extremes.

Seeing how most MS patches are security related, it's a wise move to do as much as you can to at least attempt to minimize the risk.

Makes me miss the old days when Fieries were Linux or UNIX based. :(

[reckless]

if it does everything its supposed to id leave it alone.
if it aint broke, dont fix it.

TOO LATE - I BROKE IT! Now having a nightmare trying to fix it. Not sure what the issue is. When I print on larger stock/paper it comes out all weird.

[tulintron]

Office Fiery..almost never, production Fierys, patches as needed, MS updates almost never. Most of the time it's due to a workstation upgrade. Production customers use and understand CWS and the update process through here is pretty straight forward. E +1

[reckless]

Todays error after updating latest firmware:
56267

[Synthohol]

horrible horrible pic :(

[KenB]

Unreadable.

[reckless]

56273

[reckless]

The IP address is correct but fiery is not connecting to KM now.

[Synthohol]

and it wont ever again.
XP no longer supported and neither is that fiery so it is what it is.

[reckless]

and it wont ever again.
XP no longer supported and neither is that fiery so it is what it is.

I am confused. The Fiery doesn't have Windows XP on it, it has windows 10.

New update today eventually solved the problem. Had to reboot a few times.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS TO UPDATE FIERY! I LOVE TO HATE THEM. They release updates and screw things up. I am the moron for actually trusting them.

[Synthohol]

what version fiery? 313 version?
i only let the fierys update themselves with fiery updater so it applies the patches in correct order.
if you get code 10 there might be a patch to allow other patches. like the 413s used to do.
i forgot you had a 313 i thought a 413. thats why i thought XP. (and the lack of update capability.)

[KenB]

Glad it's working.

I'm not saying you did, but you can't "willy-nilly" install the patches.

The instructions (if any) need to be followed exactly, else bad things can happen.

[reckless]

There were no directions other than update. Fiery keeps giving warnings to update which annoy me eventually and I update.

[reckless]

I have a problem where Fiery is not recognizing PB-503 Finisher even though its recognized in the 6100 printer. How do I fix this? It recognized it before.