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keystonenew
11-04-2009, 01:04 AM
Can we connect the external Fiery S300 RIP from our C500, to our new Bizhub C650? If not, what Firey external RIP is compatable to the C650?

mascan42
11-04-2009, 01:55 AM
The C650 isn't a production machine, and so it doesn't have a free-standing controller like the PRO C500. The only Fiery that works with it is the IC409, which is an embedded controller.

keystonenew
11-04-2009, 02:51 AM
The C650 isn't a production machine, and so it doesn't have a free-standing controller like the PRO C500. The only Fiery that works with it is the IC409, which is an embedded controller.

Thanks & do you think the quality can be equal to our old C500 w/ the extenal Fiery?

Stirton.M
11-04-2009, 07:17 AM
Thanks & do you think the quality can be equal to our old C500 w/ the extenal Fiery?

Regular paper, yes.

But anything requiring heavier paper stock 200-300gsm, the C500 is superior. In that case, that would be an emphatic no.

The two machines are miles apart based on capabilities. The C650 is an office solution machine where the C500 is meant for print shop locations. The physical capabilities between the two units extend to better colour control overall on the C500.

The C650 with a fiery controller would vastly improve the colour control on the machine, but you are subject to the limitations of the image unit yields and their ability to keep up with production quality levels. Generally, I do not recommend placing a C650 to replace a C500 in print shop environments. Instead, a C6500 or 6501/5501 is a better replacement. They are, for the most part, identical in paper handling and function to the C500.

keystonenew
11-04-2009, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the insight & another helpful post that you've given us. Much appreciated. I think if we get the C5500 fixed, we'll be covered for most anything that comes in the shop.


Regular paper, yes.

But anything requiring heavier paper stock 200-300gsm, the C500 is superior. In that case, that would be an emphatic no.

The two machines are miles apart based on capabilities. The C650 is an office solution machine where the C500 is meant for print shop locations. The physical capabilities between the two units extend to better colour control overall on the C500.

The C650 with a fiery controller would vastly improve the colour control on the machine, but you are subject to the limitations of the image unit yields and their ability to keep up with production quality levels. Generally, I do not recommend placing a C650 to replace a C500 in print shop environments. Instead, a C6500 or 6501/5501 is a better replacement. They are, for the most part, identical in paper handling and function to the C500.

keystonenew
11-04-2009, 04:49 PM
The C650 isn't a production machine, and so it doesn't have a free-standing controller like the PRO C500. The only Fiery that works with it is the IC409, which is an embedded controller.

Can we buy the IC409 used or new from other sources rather than directly from Konica Minolta?

mascan42
11-04-2009, 10:24 PM
Can we buy the IC409 used or new from other sources rather than directly from Konica Minolta?
I'm sure you can probably find one, but be sure to get the interface kit, cables & software as well. Even used it'll probably cost over $2000.

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