C451 print problem

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • francois
    service manager
    • Apr 2009
    • 32

    #1

    C451 print problem

    Hi all

    one of my customers have a c451 and a c350, the problem is that both m/c are printing at the same time and the same jobs appear in both the m/c job lists. It looks like a driver problem. We have reinstall all the drivers but same problem start again. The m/c is on a network and both have fiery controllers on. Some times when you print from to one m/c both start printing. (the ip address is diffrent)
  • mrwho
    Major Asshole!

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 4299

    #2
    That's very very odd! Could it be possible that both have the same IP address??? I know that should not be possible, but it's the only thing I can think of!
    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
    Mascan42

    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

    Ibid

    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

    Comment

    • francois
      service manager
      • Apr 2009
      • 32

      #3
      Yes the two m/c have diffrent ip adresse

      Comment

      • mrwho
        Major Asshole!

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 4299

        #4
        Well, in that case, I can only think that your customer is using some specialized software that has the ability to print the same job to different printers (ePrint, Intelliscribe, Print Distributor, PrintRush, etc) - or, since you're using Fierys, maybe there's an option in Command Workstation that I'm not familiar with which will allow you to do just that.

        Does the problem ocurs if you try to print from your own laptop to one of the printers at a time?
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

        Comment

        • francois
          service manager
          • Apr 2009
          • 32

          #5
          It does not happen every time you print. You can print 100 jobs and it does not do it and just suddenly it start to do it

          Comment

          • mrwho
            Major Asshole!

            Site Contributor
            2,500+ Posts
            • Apr 2009
            • 4299

            #6
            Sorry then - I'm out of clues.

            Let us know when you find out what it is - I'm curious to know!
            ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
            Mascan42

            'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

            Ibid

            I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

            Comment

            • TheOwl
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Nov 2008
              • 1732

              #7
              I would try changing the IP address of the copiers anyway and re-create the TCP/IP ports that are used to print to the devices.

              Have you seen this happen while on site? Would you know if it was coming from a specific user or computer?

              Just a couple of ideas.
              Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

              Comment

              • Mr Spock
                Vulcan Inventor of Death

                1,000+ Posts
                • Aug 2006
                • 2064

                #8
                are the ip address 1 off from each other? The c451 with a fiery requires 2 ip address. One is the fiery and the next one up is for the emperon on the machine. So if the 2nd machine is also set at the next one up that could be the issue. For example if the c451 fiery is 192.168.1.100 and the second fiery is at 192.168.1.101 then any print to the second fiery may show up on the c451 as an emperon print job and may make it to the machine as a print job to both.
                And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

                Comment

                • RRodgers
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1947

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mrwho
                  Well, in that case, I can only think that your customer is using some specialized software that has the ability to print the same job to different printers (ePrint, Intelliscribe, Print Distributor, PrintRush, etc) - or, since you're using Fierys, maybe there's an option in Command Workstation that I'm not familiar with which will allow you to do just that.

                  Does the problem ocurs if you try to print from your own laptop to one of the printers at a time?
                  I'd be willing to bed that they might both be named the same thing on the Fiery's and that's why. But I could be wrong.
                  Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

                  Comment

                  • francois
                    service manager
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 32

                    #10
                    the ip addresse is 192.168.192.123 and 192.168.192.131. i think i have found the problem, it is a VIRUS. my laptop have it also now. i will keep you up to date with this problem.

                    Comment

                    • mrwho
                      Major Asshole!

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 4299

                      #11
                      So, how did it turn out?
                      ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                      Mascan42

                      'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                      Ibid

                      I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

                      Comment

                      • aesthetics1
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • May 2010
                        • 148

                        #12
                        I would doubt that a virus would cause anything like this.

                        My first thought is that printer pooling may be enabled in the ports configuration. Check this on the machines that are causing double prints.

                        Step 1 is always to isolate the problem. Save the jobs, note the time that it happens, note what type of document it is, and from which computer the job is originating from. I think you will quickly find that it is not as random as you think.

                        There are certain software applications that will allow you to print a job to multiple machines in order to print the job more quickly. For example, you have 10,000 copies to run, and you have 2 Bizhub 950s. you can run the job in 1/2 the time by spreading it out. If you bought these machines used, or you are new to the office environment, I would make sure that something like this isn't in use now and never was in the past.

                        Comment

                        Working...