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jma676
08-19-2010, 02:09 PM
Evolution does not stop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jma676
08-19-2010, 02:57 PM
With the respect it deserves, this system is really impressive, thanks Konica Minolta!!

Chromatik
08-19-2010, 03:25 PM
Try to imagine how to make the corresponding replacements.

jma676
08-19-2010, 11:57 PM
Bip!!!

HORSE
08-20-2010, 12:36 AM
jma676 your Photoshop skills impress me more so than your technical skills, I still rate you as knowing a lot about nothing.

jma676
08-20-2010, 12:54 AM
The nothing is often a very particular characteristic, as I trust my skills and techniques in Photoshop as well.

jma676
08-20-2010, 01:02 AM
Think of nothing as well as in the whole, very specific universal characteristics.

RRodgers
08-20-2010, 06:08 AM
That's a HUGE BITCH!!! LOL

Stirton.M
08-20-2010, 10:06 AM
I'm first in line in my office for getting trained on this. I can't hardly wait.

Actually, I can sort of wait, because the training will take place in the center of the universe, Toronto, a place I swore I would never go back to....too many liberals there.

jma676
08-20-2010, 10:55 PM
Congratulations Stirton.M, Send me some postcards of this!! gladly receive them.

JSC
08-20-2010, 11:00 PM
Is this a Kodak box, I know Konica Minolta are going to badge some of thier kit, Is this one?

Stirton.M
08-21-2010, 03:11 PM
Is this a Kodak box, I know Konica Minolta are going to badge some of thier kit, Is this one?

:eek::rolleyes:

ROTFLMAO

Uh...

No.

JSC
08-21-2010, 05:28 PM
:eek::rolleyes:

ROTFLMAO

Uh...

No.


Oh.... just a beefed up 6501 then.

Stirton.M
08-21-2010, 05:58 PM
KM has yet to release full details, there are similarities, but some significant differences. 2 fuser units for example.



http://player.vimeo.com/video/10795606


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQvpR2Cne20&feature=related

Stirton.M
08-21-2010, 06:27 PM
Konica Minolta Announces the Upcoming Release of the bizhub PRESS C8000 | Office Product News (http://www.officeproductnews.net/news/konica_minolta_announces_upcoming_release_bizhub_p ress_c8000)

Mike Fego of Konica Minolta talks about their bizhub PRESS C8000 at OnDemand - Printing Industy Videos from WhatTheyThink (http://whattheythink.com/video/view.cfm?id=43583)

Konica Minolta Australia - Products - bizhub PRESS C8000 (http://www.konicaminolta.com.au/products/68/804/bizhub-PRESS-C8000.aspx)

msaeger
08-22-2010, 01:09 AM
What does having two fusers improve ? I have heard Canon does that too but I haven't heard why.

random
08-22-2010, 02:09 AM
Whats the difference between a KM print and say a print of a Xerox 8000 or 5000? Well it's the glossy look. Some customers prefer the glossy look of the xerox most people prefer the matt look off a KM, which is why Xerox have made machines such as the 700 and 1000 with a matt finish. The extra fuser I understand is to produce a gloss finish. Ever printed on 80gsm at 300gsm paper weight? Pretty glossy. This photo shows one open (http://www.konicaminolta-images.eu/image.php?id=5BA4F083-5485-486B-A2C3-35E7B4B07C6E&hash=f4289f01e2c83c5c5b0c5b4e1922dc32), looks a bit more industrial that a c6500 but still the two pathetic input idle rollers.

HORSE
08-22-2010, 07:08 AM
Is this a Kodak box, I know Konica Minolta are going to badge some of thier kit, Is this one?

No JSC you are thinking of the NEXPRESS

http://www.konicaminolta.com.au/library/KM%20PacPrint%20web.gif

The PRESS C8000 looks like this

http://sufficio.squarespace.com/storage/Konica%20Minolta%20bizhub%20PRESS%20C8000-%20Built%20to%20impress%20with%20less%20pre-press.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1275315514656






KM has yet to release full details, there are similarities, but some significant differences. 2 fuser units for example.

C8000 code name is Renoir, I first seen the prototype in R&D back in Feb 2008. The jump from the C6501 to C8000 would be similar in the jump from the C500 to C6500 5 years ago.

There is also a C6000 & C7000 to replace the C6501.

AFAIK the C16000 that Jma676 posted is the result of a creative mind and photoshop... Have never seen anything like that on the drawing board.

Chromatik
08-24-2010, 04:05 PM
No JSC you are thinking of the NEXPRESS.

impressive

jma676
08-25-2010, 01:31 AM
Konica Minolta Australia Forms Relationship with Kodak


Konica Minolta Australia - News - Konica Minolta Australia Forms Relationship with Kodak (http://www.konicaminolta.com.au/News/2009/05/26/KM-Kodak-Press-Release.aspx)

HORSE
08-25-2010, 12:14 PM
This is the replacements for the C5501 Pro and C6501 Pro, The C6000 Pro & C7000 Pro.

http://www.printspeak.co.uk/library/get_AspJpeg.asp?filename=assets/news_item_photos/839/bizhub%20PRESS%20C6000%20ps.jpg&scalemode=scale&width=275&opacity=100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/4625035541_28041ec028.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/4625036089_2e9ab085b8_m.jpg

http://www.bristolcopiers.co.uk/images/product/c6_7_8000lar1275484793_690.jpg

jma676
08-25-2010, 03:21 PM
This is the replacements for the C5501 Pro and C6501 Pro, The C6000 Pro & C7000 Pro.


Ok Horse , now this is known as Bizhub Press C6000 - C7000, extension.


Date: 05/14/10 - 13:11:00
Category: Business Solutions

http://www.konicaminolta.eu/clear.gif
Konica Minolta ready to impact at IPEX 2010

Langenhagen, Germany, May 2010
With IPEX only a few days away, Konica Minolta is ready to impact at the world’s biggest English-speaking event for print, publishing and media at the NEC in Birmingham, UK. The Konica Minolta team at Stand 9-DE340 in Hall 9 will demonstrate how the digital printing solutions provider supports print professionals in improving their business – by increasing turnout, achieving more flexibility and serving customers better. From 18 to 25 May, visitors will experience the new bizhub PRESS C8000 in a live demonstration for the first time in Europe. Flanked by the new bizhub PRESS C7000 and both industry-leading partners’ and the company’s own applications, Konica Minolta displays a strong focus on colour output and variable data printing.


more here - (News Article Business Solutions - Press Releases | KONICA MINOLTA (http://www.konicaminolta.eu/business-solutions/press-center/press-releases/news-article-business-solutions/archive/2010/may/article/konica-minolta-ready-to-impact-at-ipex-2010.html))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMUw1lymWRo
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMUw1lymWRo)

HORSE
08-25-2010, 04:15 PM
Date: 05/14/10 - 13:11:00
Category: Business Solutions

http://www.konicaminolta.eu/clear.gif
Konica Minolta ready to impact at IPEX 2010

Langenhagen, Germany, May 2010
With IPEX only a few days away, Konica Minolta is ready to impact at the world’s biggest English-speaking event for print, publishing and media at the NEC in Birmingham, UK. The Konica Minolta team at Stand 9-DE340 in Hall 9 will demonstrate how the digital printing solutions provider supports print professionals in improving their business – by increasing turnout, achieving more flexibility and serving customers better. From 18 to 25 May, visitors will experience the new bizhub PRESS C8000 in a live demonstration for the first time in Europe. Flanked by the new bizhub PRESS C7000 and both industry-leading partners’ and the company’s own applications, Konica Minolta displays a strong focus on colour output and variable data printing.


more here - News Article Business Solutions - Press Releases | KONICA MINOLTA (http://www.konicaminolta.eu/business-solutions/press-center/press-releases/news-article-business-solutions/archive/2010/may/article/konica-minolta-ready-to-impact-at-ipex-2010.html+)


(YouTube - bizhub press c7000 c6000 presentation movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMUw1lymWRo))

Jma676 I see you are the master of google, this was probably the most sensible bit of information you have posted to date.

jma676
08-26-2010, 03:18 AM
Thanks for (sensible Bit ).

I hope you do not mind, is all I could find, I want to confirm, since you have the Great Crystal Ball, or you are the Master of Konica Minolta. (Respect).............

HORSE
08-26-2010, 03:56 AM
Thanks for (sensible Bit ).

I hope you do not mind, is all I could find, I want to confirm, since you have the Great Crystal Ball, or you are the Master of Konica Minolta. (Respect).............

Crystal Ball is out of batteries at the moment.

HORSE
08-27-2010, 12:10 PM
Found this nice pic of Renoir... This machine is an Animal.

http://www.konicaminolta.com.au/library/C8000_2a_300dpi.jpg

jma676
08-27-2010, 04:20 PM
Pierre-Auguste Renoir (French pronunciation: [ʁənwaʁ] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_French); 25 February 1841 – 3 December 1919) was a French artist who was a leading painter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painting) in the development of the Impressionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressionism) style. As a celebrator of beauty, and especially feminine sensuality, it has been said that "Renoir is the final representative of a tradition which runs directly from Rubens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens) to Watteau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Watteau).


Horse!!! , What do you think about the paper feeding system?

Stirton.M
08-28-2010, 12:11 AM
This system can also be seen on the 1200 and faster b/w models. All in all, this technology is long overdue in KM hardware, though truth be told, I recall seeing similar technology in older Minolta analog machines like the old CSPro series, but those were on the transport bed, not the feed side. I hear Canon and Xerox have been doing something similar to this feed concept for a long time.

On the plus side, this will certainly reduce the need to carry a couple spare feed tires....

jma676
08-28-2010, 04:37 AM
Ok, this is what I know, the question is, if anyone can expand the information about Air-Suction System, the air suction is also used in traditional offset printing systems.

HORSE
08-28-2010, 10:14 AM
The Air feed is very very good, its the same unit as the Bizhub 1200. A similar system on the Bizhub 2500 (Oce) it has been claimed that the machine ran 3 million images without a single jam.

Chromatik
08-29-2010, 07:16 PM
We can see that this new System has many advantages, we could say the new control of stabilization (New IDC), Tansfer belt, Fuser ...

jma676
08-29-2010, 10:10 PM
this would really intresante!!

Chromatik
08-31-2010, 04:51 PM
Horse looks tired !!!!!

jma676
09-01-2010, 10:43 PM
We can see that this new System has many advantages, we could say the new control of stabilization (New IDC), Tansfer belt, Fuser ...


As requested here it is !!!!!!! Some points of this new system!

Features of bizhub PRESS C8000 | New Konica Minolta Digital Press (http://stopthepresses-km.com/features/)


to I forgot, for those who are out there, Return reputation.!
He did not deserve his treatment.

HORSE
09-01-2010, 11:17 PM
This machine has got 2 Gamma sensors and 3 Color registration sensors, plus it also has OUPUT PAPER DENSITY DETECTION SENSORS (4) in the Relay unit that basically measures the actual printed CMYK output density straight off the paper and feeds back to the gamma correction of the image stabilization control to stabilize the colour.

Also the density evenness adjustment that was introduced in the C6501 can now be done by printing of a test pattern and using the X-Rite and profile maker to create a profile that can be loaded straight into the machine from a USB stick, really setting up the front-to-back colour evenness can be done by X-Rite rather than eye.

It has 2 pre-registration sensors and 2 independently driven pre-registration rollers that can straighten skew paper before it hits the registration roller by adjusting the speed of either the front or rear roller.

Chromatik
09-02-2010, 01:37 AM
Also the density evenness adjustment that was introduced in the C6501 can now be done by printing of a test pattern and using the X-Rite and profile maker to create a profile that can be loaded straight into the machine from a USB stick, really setting up the front-to-back colour evenness can be done by X-Rite rather than eye.



This is a great possibility, as this is fixed in the C6500/C6501/C500, The sample looks like a IT8.7-4.

HORSE
09-02-2010, 02:58 AM
Not to mention the 8 beam 1200 DPI write units with built in Partial Magnification Correction Mechanism (all common) and also the Radio Frequency ID labels for operator replaceable units.

Chromatik
09-02-2010, 07:06 AM
Well well well!! same thought in the previous post, 1200 DPI is a great advantage, this was a great difference from the traditional offset system, when only arrived to the 600 DPI, Preserving the 8 Bit Color Depth / 256 Levels.

What do you mean with 8 beam? (8 Laser Beam)

HORSE
09-02-2010, 07:14 AM
1 chip - 8 beam per write unit compared to 2 beam on C6500.

jma676
09-02-2010, 07:24 PM
Thanks Horse, already knew this link?.

Features of bizhub PRESS C8000 | New Konica Minolta Digital Press (http://stopthepresses-km.com/features/)

Chromatik
09-03-2010, 10:42 AM
Asi es amigo!!!! Good Post.

jma676
09-03-2010, 11:01 AM
*Thanks Horse, already knew this link?*

Features of bizhub PRESS C8000 | New Konica Minolta Digital Press (http://stopthepresses-km.com/features/)

jma676
09-03-2010, 11:04 PM
Well and you can say about The Bizhub Press C6000/C7000.

kingpd@businessprints.net
09-06-2010, 10:26 AM
This system can also be seen on the 1200 and faster b/w models. All in all, this technology is long overdue in KM hardware, though truth be told, I recall seeing similar technology in older Minolta analog machines like the old CSPro series, but those were on the transport bed, not the feed side. I hear Canon and Xerox have been doing something similar to this feed concept for a long time.

On the plus side, this will certainly reduce the need to carry a couple spare feed tires....

I could be wrong but didn't a few of Sharp's fastest b/w models in the 90's use something like this? I think they may have referred to it as an air knife system?

jma676
09-06-2010, 10:45 AM
Ufff and .......Ricoh 5540 in the year 87.

jma676
09-13-2010, 11:03 PM
This machine has got 2 Gamma sensors and 3 Color registration sensors, plus it also has OUPUT PAPER DENSITY DETECTION SENSORS (4) in the Relay unit that basically measures the actual printed CMYK output density straight off the paper and feeds back to the gamma correction of the image stabilization control to stabilize the colour.

Also the density evenness adjustment that was introduced in the C6501 can now be done by printing of a test pattern and using the X-Rite and profile maker to create a profile that can be loaded straight into the machine from a USB stick, really setting up the front-to-back colour evenness can be done by X-Rite rather than eye.

It has 2 pre-registration sensors and 2 independently driven pre-registration rollers that can straighten skew paper before it hits the registration roller by adjusting the speed of either the front or rear roller.


*Thanks Horse, already knew this link?*

Features of bizhub PRESS C8000 | New Konica Minolta Digital Press (http://stopthepresses-km.com/features/)

jma676
10-10-2010, 08:20 PM
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"OK, and what you think of this"

ORU-M

The Objectives of ORU-M (Operator Replaceable Unit Management)
ORU-M system enables users to replace the machine units by themselves. It also helps
to minimize machine downtime.
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Chromatik
10-11-2010, 04:56 AM
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"OK, and what you think of this"

ORU-M

The Objectives of ORU-M (Operator Replaceable Unit Management)
ORU-M system enables users to replace the machine units by themselves. It also helps
to minimize machine downtime.
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Would have to see users doing this job!

jma676
10-14-2010, 04:42 AM
me too!!!

marcolino
10-14-2010, 10:20 AM
i would like to get trained on this new, where can i book my training course? ;-)
When KM would finally release the C8000?

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