Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[Aneurysm]

Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[techpatk]

Any analog made by sharp. They were my daily nightmares. I seen them more than I seen my wife.

techpatk

[SuperTech]

Years ago I worked on the Monroe 945. I hated that thing it was a toner dusting pig.

[tonerhead]

Anything with the designation 2020 Konica or sharp.

[Hawkfan12]

Mita had a 2020 also, the Ai-2020 was a 2nd generation digital machine that was OK at best. The print system, on the other hand, was a tremendous pile of crap.

I guess anything with the number 2020 on it will somehow suck.

[Spank6482]

All the mita 3 digit boxes were a pain but the worst ever was the Mita 513

Post edited by: spank6482, at: 2005/01/31 22:07

[Jake]

While technically not a copier, ANY MODEL of a Gestetner digital duplicator is garbage. I worked on those pigs for years and I\'m happy to see them almost gone. All that\'s left are a few non-contract holdouts that I\'m happy to bill when necessary. :evil:

[Tonerbomb]

How \'bout the SAVIN 2408/3210 familyalso sold as RICOH 1032.Total POS new fangled color machine. :evil:

Post edited by: tonerbomb, at: 2005/02/17 19:27

[Lance]

Anything called a MOPIER

[cmb]

how about the konica 1503, 2803, 4290, and any and all clamshell models. the new stuff is allright.

[SuperTech]

cmb wrote:

how about the konica 1503, 2803, 4290, and any and all clamshell models. the new stuff is allright.


I\'m also glad to see the clamshels die. I hate having to fork out the cash to put new shocks into old crappy boxes. :angry:

[imagertech]

i hated working on the canon np-80

[copier guy]

Hands down, no competition, shittiest box on 4 casters..... The Mita DC-513z

[Jason]

Minolta CF-900

[imagertech]

i hated working on the oliveti 1000, flat head screws. need i say more.

[Spank6482]

imagertech wrote:

i hated working on the oliveti 1000, flat head screws. need i say more.

WTF... Flat head screws, no wonder they went out of business a dozzen times.

[Copystar]

Aneurysm wrote:

Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
The peice of crap Copystar 3010 that kicked my ass all day today. I jerked around with a CQ issue for 2 and a half hours before I realized that my main charger corona was a arching. it\'s always the easy stuff that throws us off. :angry:

[Sgt. Hulka]

imagertech wrote:

i hated working on the oliveti 1000, flat head screws. need i say more.

Flat Head Screws?? That just might put it over the top.

[KJ1110]

Mita DC-2054/2254/2255/2285 series! :angry:

Overtoning, drum-wearing, dusting, weak-framed, loose-clamshelled POS!

Oh! And any Mita model that ends in a 6!

Ahhh! I feel better now! :cheer:

Post edited by: KJ1110, at: 2005/08/27 15:47

[jojobutthead]

2020\'s you forgot the biggest piece of crap the Xerox 2020. It was a used barely reconditioned ancient 3100 revamped into a large format reduction machine that had 12 mirrors. and a 500 pound reduction head that moved to one side so the operators could make regular copies. The big red X sold them as new for $12000 plus. From that day on any machine with the numbers 2020 have been doomed.

[mrandmrs]

We\'re showing our age now - - - how about any copier with the name \"KIP\" before the model # ?!!! What about an old Minolta EG 301 - - - what about an old Saxon C-500 - - - what about the old Sharp 720/726 - - - ETC,ETC,ETC......

[cboucher]

Mita Ai3030, hands down...

[denden4h]

The Mita 8090/ Royal Copystar 2280 series. I use it as a trial by fire for new techs. If you can fix it, you can fix anything...:mad:

[dqydj]

everything mita analog starting with 40.
4085, 4086, 4090...

[10871087]

The Mita 8090/ Royal Copystar 2280 series. I use it as a trial by fire for new techs. If you can fix it, you can fix anything...:mad:


No Shit, they SUCKED BIG ASS. the F'd up part was the the DC-6090 was a pretty good machine and then they screwed things up bigtime when they updated the machine. We had a ton of them in churches and schools and the developer would die after about a month, the things would overtone a puke. remember he filter they installed so the machine wouldn't leave a giant toner mark on the wall behind the machine.

What was worse, the shitty developing issues or the fuser of doom?

PS. DQYDJ is right. anything starting with a 40 from mita was shit! (except for the new stuff).

[knightfall]

The biggestg POS was the Ricoh 6000 & 7000 series, the inverter would warp if you breathed on it the wrong way infact the whole fuser unit was crap.

[dqydj]

I've got to agree with 1087 on the mita 8090\8095. they ran dirty and were a pain in the ass
to PM not to mention the sk1 stacker and the 5150 sorter. I got really good at the timing
for the press bar and replacing bins. (not by choice though)

[copi_40]

I am the winner of this contest !!!!!
The right answer is TOSHIBA 1550 :mad:

[gregrcs]

How about the Toshiba BD8812 or the BD5620. Both are clusterf.... with power cords.:eek:

[10871087]

I am the winner of this contest !!!!!
The right answer is TOSHIBA 1550

Well how about a second place award to the Mita Ai-3030. The digital copier that was broken before you installed it.

The machine came in three parts, the scanner, the print engine and the scanner rack. There was no simple plug-in the the scanner, you had to remove the top of the print engine and connect a bunch of wires from the scanner. to make matters worse, the cables we about two feet too short and the stupid scanner rack didn't have wheels so it was just about impossible to get the machine where you wanted it.

The machine sold itself (actually it unsold itself) when you brought it in on a demo and they saw a technician wrestling with it for 45 minutes just to get the power on.

Don't even get me going about the print system or changing the dozen or so eproms the machine had.

Did I mention that the top cover I referred to had about 18 screws holding it on.

[Mark B]

Minolta 3050/4050 when they first came out. After 50 different mods. the machines were not to bad.

[Dukem]

I agree with 1087 about the 8090/2280 being a BIG pos but does anyone recall working on older analog panasonics, i.e., FP series? 1530,3007,3030,5060? They ran dirty and had an infinite amount of cold solder connections?

[wagon]

What about Ricoh Afficio 200? or 250 or 350 0r 450 (steaming turds the whole lot!) Ah, yes, the Toshiba 1550 - yuk! What about the Minolta Di151? Konica 7222 et al? All steamers, the whole lot!

[JSC]

Any Ricoh Colour, 3006 man i hate that machine and as for the Nashua C503 im still in a cold sweat over that one 12years latter!!!

[CMB]

What about Ricoh Afficio 200? or 250 or 350 0r 450 (steaming turds the whole lot!) Ah, yes, the Toshiba 1550 - yuk! What about the Minolta Di151? Konica 7222 et al? All steamers, the whole lot!


could you explain why the 7222 is a piece?
i work on the whole line (7020 thru the 7235) the earlier boxes are a pain but the later boxes perform very well.

[wagon]

7222... Paper jams (lots), junk fuser units, etc. etc. (maybe I was spoilt because I came from the Minolta side of the fence prior to the 'merger'.).

[CMB]

thats strange. some of the earlier models like the 7020 and 7030 we had some issues with the toner recycler units clogging up. we then would have to go in and take everything apart and vacume out all the old toner and developer and start over with fresh. that was a pain. but we figured out if you set the auto shut-off to about 1 hour the fuser won't cook the toner in the unit and you will have less of these types of service calls.

the later models of these copiers they have improved the design of the toner recycling mechanism and i have not had any of these problems. as long as the rom versions are the latest you shouldn't have any problems with these models. i have several dozen in the field with half a million copies on each that run pm to pm with very little problem. i would say that the biggest problem i have with these would be the ADF heighth adjustment-which is a less than 5 minute service call.

[fireater]

I have works on sharps of all sizes , toshibas, canons, now ricohs, even one or 2 xerox (which i hate cause i cant get any manulas and they are hard to take apart) But hands down the 2035 with the the bad registration and weak motor was nasty. And oh yes the clamshell design by anyone suckd

[geneseif]

Basically a sped up 1590 that threw developer down into the gear causing them to grind up. Had to tear it down almost to frame to repair. Used to carry 2 sets of gears. The fix was a piece of foam tape between toner unit and developer unit- but the copier was still an underbuilt piece of crap.

[ajvit]

:eek:
I agree with 1087 about the 8090/2280 being a BIG pos but does anyone recall working on older analog panasonics, i.e., FP series? 1530,3007,3030,5060? They ran dirty and had an infinite amount of cold solder connections?

[JimBeam]

:mad: With my limited experience, I must agree with copi 40. The Toshiba 1550 was my nightmare. I worked for a reseller who put these POS machines ON CONTRACT !!!! It was awful. The business was sold and the
new owner did not renew any of these 1550 contracts. I was grateful.:p

[e99donald]

Any copier made or sold by OLIVETTI..........or ,some of you younger techs. may not remember the days of the electrostatic copiers(liquid & dry, special paper required) NOW they were CRAP !!!!!

[sharpshiba]

E Studio 3511/4511:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[cboucher]

Mita Ai3030, especially when print system is installed.

[JoeQ]

Since this was my favorite queston posted, I will bring it up again,
Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever? :evil:
Definitely Mita Analogs and first generation digitals like AI3030.
Toner dusting nightmares, but we stuck around long enough to see the new KM digitals. Now they are the Best.

[copyman]

i have to disagree with whoever posted that "all" sharp analogs were the worse, of course there are a few bad sharp models that come to mind, 8600/9300, 2020. but one of the best analogs ever made was by sharp the sf-8100. and another great analog was the mita 152z. as far as olivetti being bad, i agree but i thought they were made by another oem like sharp. i remember one olivetti that was the same as sharps big master machine, 770, 781. the 781 used to talk to you with like 20 voice commands in a lame jap robotic tone. the bottom line is all oem's had their "dogs" but i would have to say the worse overall were ALL panasonic analogs, JUNK

[10871087]

Mita Ai3030, especially when print system is installed.

You sure it wasn't a "print error system", what a piece of shit!

[T6895]

the Mita 513 was horrible,so was the Konica 2020 but the 650 Minolta was the worst.

[totalofficeequip]

the sanyo 801 and 1100 were both gems along with the sharp 901 for all you oldtimers

[imagertech]

I really didnt care for the Olivetti copia 1000. had flathead screws and the book had lots of translation errors.