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tupeman
07-07-2011, 03:06 AM
HI guys,

Newbie here. Does anyone know how to reset electronic counter of the Bizhub
423/363/283/223 series?

Your inputs would be highly appreciated...

JustManuals
07-07-2011, 03:51 AM
If we told you we'd have to kill you too.

Mr Spock
07-07-2011, 11:46 AM
For once many will agree with manuals4you.......

Unethical at best and illegal in some places...

blackcat4866
07-07-2011, 10:47 PM
How about copying currency, stocks, and bonds? How about turning back the odometer on your car? Don't you want that too?

Jules Winfield
07-08-2011, 12:51 AM
It's kinda funny, but I had a boss once who actually told me to reset the counter on one of the earlier Konica Minolta color boxes (pre-bizhub). Oh yeah, it's possible... It also cost my boss about $1500 in consumable parts that had to be replaced because of the counter reset... LOL

nazmi_exa
11-02-2011, 04:43 AM
For once many will agree with manuals4you.......

Unethical at best and illegal in some places...

for some country..by reset meter counter is not an illegal job...so for me does't matter to share how to reset meter counter... by just sharing the info& trick is not illegal... but for certain place reset counter meter is assume illegal...so just share lol...its depend on us either to reset or not according to the situation and place.. sharing for caring..its is this forum objective..

Hansoon
11-02-2011, 07:12 AM
I smell Zaza.....

Hans

kingarthur
11-02-2011, 09:50 AM
for some country..by reset meter counter is not an illegal job...so for me does't matter to share how to reset meter counter... by just sharing the info& trick is not illegal... but for certain place reset counter meter is assume illegal...so just share lol...its depend on us either to reset or not according to the situation and place.. sharing for caring..its is this forum objective..


I dont think any engineer would share that info with anyone....irrespective of which country they're in....it's all about ethics...i would hate to buy a "new" copier....cos the counter has been reset & then discover its actually a pile of crap & then have to spend a load more money on it......

DCPS
11-02-2011, 10:41 AM
If the counter is so important for KM i would except a NVRAM tool to recover the counter if one has to exchange the NVRAM. And what about a recovery tool for the NVRAM for Amur/Donau like the one for the older models?

emujo
11-02-2011, 01:48 PM
Replacing the NVRAM would reset your counters, and if done for genuine troubleshooting reasons would be acceptable, as long as the customer was given that info...otherwise, why don't you post the name of your company and location you're at and we can ask your local govt if what you're doing is legal there. Emujo

DCPS
11-02-2011, 02:05 PM
Replacing the NVRAM would reset your counters, and if done for genuine troubleshooting reasons would be acceptable, as long as the customer was given that info...otherwise, why don't you post the name of your company and location you're at and we can ask your local govt if what you're doing is legal there. Emujo

We are talking about cases where NVRAM must be exchanged because of a problem (C-dxx, i-Options, etc errors). I think no tech is happy if he has to exchange it (licence error and configuration).

JustManuals
11-02-2011, 05:35 PM
for some country..by reset meter counter is not an illegal job...so for me does't matter to share how to reset meter counter... by just sharing the info& trick is not illegal... but for certain place reset counter meter is assume illegal...so just share lol...its depend on us either to reset or not according to the situation and place.. sharing for caring..its is this forum objective..

You should re-read the terms of service of this site. You will find that this kind of information is neither wanted or allowed to be posted here.

mervyn
11-02-2011, 06:20 PM
Agree with the above posts. Illegal and highly unethical especially coming from a tech , if you are one .

mrwho
11-02-2011, 06:54 PM
I usually do it gently with a big iron mallet.

Jimthecopierwrench
02-01-2014, 01:50 AM
I will digress from discussing the legalities of meter resetting. I have successfully reverse engineered every meter and consumable from the CF-1501 to present KMBS models (okay I lie: Never did a 420 or 8050). Although initially for my own amusement, sending a refurbished machine with zero meters is neither a crime nor dishonest. Our customers know that they are receiving a refurbished and reset machine and the meters exist for OUR billing - not akin to an automobile's odometer intended to show actual age and usage.

I take great pride in my machines, and have developed cleaning and refinishing techniques that make them look better than new - such as a light buff with a matte clear lacquer, refinishing worn anodized guide plates, etc. This is a matter of personal pride and workmanship, not dishonesty.

And even when people know they're getting something 6 years old - they LIKE that new feel to clear counters, no scratches and dings, etc. I just bought a 3 year old car and appreciated the detailing the day i drove it off the lot (My German Shep has since undone all of that mind you.)

That said, although historically I've kept my various methods close to chest - I'll reveal the little trick to doing this model line at present (I assume KMBS will soon release a reset file, but until then...)

If you've tried a "lift the battery" NV reset, you've undoubtedly come across the COLOUR isolation switches appearing that you cannot reset on the mono machines.

The solution believe it or not is to reset the NVRAM, then install it in an appropriate large frame colour machine (I use the C-652) - then use the C-652 recovery file.

Pop the NV back into the 223 and perform a factory setup and licence management repair.

As I write this it's been a few months since the last, so i can't recall one minor detail ... Er, something in vendor mode defaults funny. Don't recall what, but it'll be obvious in stop-0-9.

Good Luck.
Jim.

jotunn
02-01-2014, 06:30 AM
Jim! The dutchforce came to us :)

Beware writing such things, this breaks terms of service - unfortunately :/

Your method is nice, but IMO neither the simplest nor the safest - there are better ways.

Jimthecopierwrench
02-01-2014, 06:33 PM
Jim! The dutchforce came to us :)
Heh-heh. Yep, needed a mistress.


Beware writing such things, this breaks terms of service
Fair enough - when in Rome ;)

mailderrick
02-06-2014, 07:56 AM
What sucks is i know there are horrible techs out there that would use that information for bad purposes. It is not always for illegal or bad reasons though..for instance a few weeks ago i was wishing the same thing. Whenever i work on an HP i switch out a formatter board(on older HP models) and plug the numbers back into the new board so the machine keeps an accurate reading. The other week when i worked on a KM machine i had a bad NVRAM but no way to put back the original info and for someone as anal as me..that is a horrible feeling. I understand sort of why secret..then again...sort of think it is a little too protected for those who wish to use it for the right reasons.

WillyB
05-15-2014, 04:13 PM
Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for sharing the info. I am currently supplying and services Konica Minolta machine here in Malaysia. To be able to reset the meter is great especially when it comes to billing purposes. I have never mislead my customers by telling them these machines are new as it is not right. I have always tried my best to refurbished the machine to make it look and feel like new as I always like to give the best to my customers and hope they would have a pleasant experience in using the machines though it is not new. I strongly believe we should reduce, reuse and recycle whenever it is possible.

The older Bizhub like Bizhub 350 is possible to reset the meter and I've done that. On the other hand, the newer models such as 423 or C452, tried changing the NVRAM but was unable to get rid the licensing error message.

I was wondering of how did you manage to overcome this issue? Appreciate if you could share it with me.





I will digress from discussing the legalities of meter resetting. I have successfully reverse engineered every meter and consumable from the CF-1501 to present KMBS models (okay I lie: Never did a 420 or 8050). Although initially for my own amusement, sending a refurbished machine with zero meters is neither a crime nor dishonest. Our customers know that they are receiving a refurbished and reset machine and the meters exist for OUR billing - not akin to an automobile's odometer intended to show actual age and usage.

I take great pride in my machines, and have developed cleaning and refinishing techniques that make them look better than new - such as a light buff with a matte clear lacquer, refinishing worn anodized guide plates, etc. This is a matter of personal pride and workmanship, not dishonesty.

And even when people know they're getting something 6 years old - they LIKE that new feel to clear counters, no scratches and dings, etc. I just bought a 3 year old car and appreciated the detailing the day i drove it off the lot (My German Shep has since undone all of that mind you.)

That said, although historically I've kept my various methods close to chest - I'll reveal the little trick to doing this model line at present (I assume KMBS will soon release a reset file, but until then...)

If you've tried a "lift the battery" NV reset, you've undoubtedly come across the COLOUR isolation switches appearing that you cannot reset on the mono machines.

The solution believe it or not is to reset the NVRAM, then install it in an appropriate large frame colour machine (I use the C-652) - then use the C-652 recovery file.

Pop the NV back into the 223 and perform a factory setup and licence management repair.

As I write this it's been a few months since the last, so i can't recall one minor detail ... Er, something in vendor mode defaults funny. Don't recall what, but it'll be obvious in stop-0-9.

Good Luck.
Jim.

meisterstuck
03-08-2016, 11:10 PM
HI guys,

Newbie here. Does anyone know how to reset electronic counter of the Bizhub
423/363/283 (tel:423/363/283)/223 series?

Your inputs would be highly appreciated...
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