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Cipher
09-14-2007, 05:30 PM
If you do which one do you use and recommend? :)

unisys12
09-14-2007, 06:29 PM
Although, we have been told not to use it, our dealer still uses it on very dirty relay rollers and the hard white pressure rollers found in the paper path. The product we use is Fedron. Great smelling stuff!! :confused: And it will melt the hell out of most softer plastics.

The main reasons our dealer was told not to use it is because that over time, it will slightly shrink the rubber. At least that's what a Ricoh instructor told one of our guys while in the B140 class.

Most of the time though, like in the field, we use Spartan SD-20. Great stuff as well.

pjdbm
09-14-2007, 06:35 PM
I dont believe in putting bubble gum on a problem, its worn for a reason and it will come back sooner than later.

CMB
09-15-2007, 10:11 AM
fedron is some toxic sh!t. i don't want to be no where around it.
try cleaning grey rubber rollers and tires with WD-40. works great.
alcohol dries out rubber, WD-40 makes it like new, but like the other guy said, you can only get so much out of a rubber roller or tire and it may need to be replaced.

unisys12
09-15-2007, 02:02 PM
yeah, it is toxic... but we don't clean feed rollers with it. That's plain ignorant!!

I might have to play around with WD-40. But, I must say, I don't feel very comfortable cleaning a roller with a lubricant. We had a tech a few years ago that we found out was cleaning relay rollers with D-Ink, which has a oil base to it. It worked so well, that soon all the other techs in that shop were doing it. We didn't find out about what was going on until the shop started ordering feed tires and clutches like crazy. When we started looking at call historys, we noticed that they had cleaned the relay rollers, then was back a week later for the same thing, cleaned the rollers again, then a week later was ordering feed tires and clutches for the machine. Even then, the problems were not going away because the oil was working it's way out of the rubber, causing it to become slick again. Cleaning them with SD-20 did the trick, because it removed enough of the oil from the roller.

Granted, the D-Ink worked great for cleaning the hard rubber rollers normally found in relay areas and long hard registrations rollers, but it was not worth it. I will experiment with the WD-40 on a shop machine we have though. I'm always willing to try new things. :cool:

CMB
09-15-2007, 04:17 PM
10-4. word of warning. do not use WD-40 on clear neaphreane(sp?) rollers. it will eat them up.

ps. WD-40 isn't really a lubricant. look at the name.

water displacement-formula 40.

invented by NASA.

its more of a cleaner and degreaser than a lubricant.

Cipher
09-15-2007, 07:43 PM
Normally I will just replace rollers that have no tread/grip left.
Paper feed separation rollers get so bald there is just no other way really.

But often I will clean ADF rollers and reg rollers with a water damp cloth.
It can be fairly suprising how smooth paper dust and toner rub off will make a roller and how much grip does remain underneath.

blackcat4866
09-15-2007, 08:15 PM
It's just idiotic to clean worn rollers. Dirty rollers, thats another story...
Try "De-Solv-It" available at Gill-Roy's Hardware. Its an orange oil based cleaner/solvent that doesn't damage cover plastic or rubber. Great Stuff!

As Roller Rejuvenator goes, it's only good for cleaning toner from fuser parts & steel. It's too corrosive for rubber and plastic.

Most manufacturers recommend a soft dry towel or water, which is pretty much useless. Clearly, the engineers have never done a service call!

knightfall
09-15-2007, 10:53 PM
all rubber rejuvenator should have one purpose and that is to buy time until the new roller comes in and not as a substitute for replacing the rollers, there is no magic solution to regrow rubber that has been rubbed off by paper. I use either soap and water or wd-40, everything else if you read the warning label will state that this is toxic, carcinagenic or may cause cancer. Water wont harm you and wd-40 depending on who you ask may help with arhritis.

dwparker.wa
09-17-2007, 10:06 PM
We use Simple Green. It cleans the grundge off the rollers quickly, It's readily available, and it puts a little "stick" on the rollers if they are worn and we don't have a replacement at the time. It usually will last a month or 2.

just a tech
09-18-2007, 12:56 AM
i have used soap and water,rubber rejuvenator,plain water, and simple green over the last few years..believe that simple green probably cleans dirty rollers the best for me...ya notice, i said "dirty" rollers..i believe in keepin the rollers clean, but if they are worn in any way--they get replaced..never tried wd-40 and probably never will due to smell of chemical.(customers can be funny like that..lol)

JOEYSULLIVAN
09-18-2007, 05:57 AM
An old timer told me about using WD-40 on feed tires and I laughed at him thinking he was joking. Then came the deliema within a month of his telling me about"His Trick". After driving 40 miles out for a service call and having found out the pick up tires were failing and realizing id have to do this boring ride again real soon as I didnt have the feed tires, i got desperate. I scuffed up the tires with emery cloth and sprayed some WD-40 on a rag, rubbed it on the feed tires and then to my amazement ......the tires started looking BRAND NEW! Yep,,, He was right and from that day forward, ive been doing that "trick" and rarely replace tires.

Mark B
09-19-2007, 02:47 PM
How about rubber transport rollers? Do you clean them every call, or only when there is a jamming problem. What do you use on them?

JOEYSULLIVAN
09-27-2007, 02:32 AM
How about rubber transport rollers? Do you clean them every call, or only when there is a jamming problem. What do you use on them?
I have used WD40 on printer/copier/fax feed tires, registration rollers, glues (stickers) on the plastic skins, also it removes all/any ink pen marks, and lastly roofing tar. This is fantastic stuff and was discovered by accident. Water Dispersant is the W/D, found by chance while testing for a formula to repel water on a motorboat engine.

CMB
09-27-2007, 09:22 PM
scientiest at NASA invented it by accident seeking a lubricant for rocket ships. they noticed it displaced water, so the name wd formula 40.

unisys12
09-28-2007, 03:29 AM
I will experiment with the WD-40 on a shop machine we have though. I'm always willing to try new things. :cool:

Hey guys! I said I would try it and I did. I have been playing around with the stuff on all sorts of different transport rollers and I will admit that I am pretty impressed with the results. Just today I was cleaning a machine that had been sitting in the garage (3 bay garage we have at our shop were we store used equipment and misc crap) for a few months. While cleaning the transport rollers in the duplex area, which are spring loaded on a shaft, I was having a hard time cleaning them with SD-20. I was just about to grab the Fedron and thought of the WD-40, so I grabbed it instead. I have cleaned transport rollers in several ADF's in the shop and was happy with the results, so I thought what the heck. I hardly had to apply any pressure to get the crap off the rollers.

Needless to say, I will be removing the small "flask" of Fedron from my tool kit and will be purchusing a small spray bottle of Da' 40 to replace it. :D

Now, if we could just come up with a way to stop techs from pouring oil all over brass bushings, we might actually have this copier repair thing down to a science! :cool:

peakcity
11-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Since there seems to be some interest, you may want to check this out: Welcome to WD-40 * About Us: Our History (http://www.wd40.com/AboutUs/our_history.html) and check out some of the unusual uses of WD40.

dagoof
11-24-2011, 08:25 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread but I just thought I'd share the WD-40 love :D
Started off using a general printroom cleaner (think it's alkaline based), which helped with cleaning but little else. Rejuvinator, likewise, cleaned them up ok but didn't seem to restore any grip qualities. WD on the other hand, definitely adds grip, for a while at least. It's amazing how versatile this stuff is!

Akitu
11-24-2011, 08:57 PM
Use Sel-sol up here, does the trick... (The red stuff)

Won't bring a dead tire back to life, but keeps them clean and gives a surprising amount of grip back to a roller that isn't completely worn out. Alternatively, soap and water is usually all you need to clean it. Can't say I've tried to revive a dead one however, as messing around with life and inanimate objects is best left for mad scientists.

Hemlock
11-28-2011, 01:31 PM
scientiest at NASA invented it by accident seeking a lubricant for rocket ships. they noticed it displaced water, so the name wd formula 40.

What the hell were they trying to squeeze that rocket ship into?

Hemlock
11-28-2011, 01:33 PM
Do you use a rubber rejuvenator?
If you do which one do you use and recommend? :)





Dude, just get a new rubber; they're not that expensive and way cheaper than a kid.

prntrfxr
11-28-2011, 05:16 PM
I'd love to know who voted that they hated you for coming up with the poll. ROFL. That category nearly killed me.

fixthecopier
11-30-2011, 12:24 PM
I'd love to know who voted that they hated you for coming up with the poll. ROFL. That category nearly killed me.


The guy who voted in that category probably sells rubber rejuvenator.

Zackuth
11-30-2011, 01:58 PM
I use the Martin Yale brand of rubber rejuvenator when ever I clean rollers. But once the tread is gone I replace them.

jmaister
11-30-2011, 07:09 PM
If I didnt know better, I'd think you were refering to something else.

TROJAN MAN!

fixthecopier
12-01-2011, 09:31 PM
If I didnt know better, I'd think you were refering to something else.

TROJAN MAN!


I think that is called Viagra

kingpd@businessprints.net
12-02-2011, 01:10 AM
We use them. Good stuff. It's not a replacement to changing rubber rollers, we still do that when the time comes for it. Rather the rubber rejuvenator acts as a stronger cleaner to help reduce jams in the interim from things like cheap dusty paper.

We use max professional. Good for getting glue gunk off of stuff, other types of cleaning, and helps renew windshield wiper blades. I have pine trees at my house and sappy goo drips sometimes. Rubber rejuv. gets it off.

hugohug
08-06-2015, 04:18 AM
I Tried Silicone Spray. Works Great!

allan
08-06-2015, 06:04 AM
You need plasticizer. Its in dashboard spray. Only for hardened transport rollers.

Tonerkiller
08-06-2015, 03:44 PM
I use simple green it works great and has a pleasant smell

copier addict
08-06-2015, 05:32 PM
I use Sel-Sol. It is safe, has no odour, and my hair has never been healthier. LOL

blackcat4866
08-07-2015, 12:15 AM
I use Sel-Sol. It is safe, has no odour, and my hair has never been healthier. LOL

Do you suppose it might help bring back some of my now-absent hair? =^..^=

tech28
08-07-2015, 01:08 AM
Soft soap and water, 1/3 to 2/3 water in small bottles, non toxic and works great, and different scents, wipe down machines also, customers love that.

tommygun
08-07-2015, 06:11 AM
eucalyptus oil, works great, smells great never have a blocked nose

theengel
08-07-2015, 01:34 PM
I get whatever "goo-off" is in the grocery store. It's been just as useful as rubber rejuvinator, it's less expensive, and it doesn't stink as bad. But I usually don't use it on rubber in printers. I say replace it or leave it alone. I use it to get the sticky from other company ID stickers off the printer so I can put my own sticker on.

Also I use it on Martin Yale folding machine rollers when I work on them. It's just as good as the MY roller cleaner.

copier addict
08-07-2015, 01:45 PM
Do you suppose it might help bring back some of my now-absent hair? =^..^=

Not likely. But I'm sure it will give the bare spots a lovely shine.

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