Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 23

Thread: Faxes and hippa

  1. #11
    Geek Extraordinaire 2,500+ Posts KenB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    3,950
    Rep Power
    126

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    Intercepting a fax transmission, even over a standard analog phone line, is rare, but not unheard of.

    The much bigger security issue is the carelessness displayed during the sending and receiving processes.

    Having faxes sent to email or folder, without being printed, helps a bit on the receive side, at least.
    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

  2. #12
    Trusted Tech 50+ Posts
    Faxes and hippa


    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Fairbanks, AK
    Posts
    97
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.

  3. #13
    Service Manager 5,000+ Posts tsbservice's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,154
    Rep Power
    346

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    Quote Originally Posted by rspicer View Post
    The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.
    Thanks God, i didn't have to see faxes for a good time. This medical customers attitude is hilarious, though
    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.

    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

    I don't reply to private messages from end users.

  4. #14
    Senior Tech 250+ Posts
    Faxes and hippa

    Vincent128's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    326
    Rep Power
    26

    Angry Re: Faxes and hippa

    The "reason" Fax is more "secure" in it's sending of a TIFF via audio that you can record on audio tape, digitize and reconstruct the TIFF is that doing so breaks wire tap law - federal offense .

    Intercepting an email ...not so much a deal..

    they need like..a block chain Ifax or something ... I do so wish for the day that fax is gone, the industry has been saying that day is coming for the last 20+ GD years

  5. #15
    Geek Extraordinaire 2,500+ Posts KenB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    3,950
    Rep Power
    126

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent128 View Post
    The "reason" Fax is more "secure" in it's sending of a TIFF via audio that you can record on audio tape, digitize and reconstruct the TIFF is that doing so breaks wire tap law - federal offense .

    Intercepting an email ...not so much a deal..

    they need like..a block chain Ifax or something ... I do so wish for the day that fax is gone, the industry has been saying that day is coming for the last 20+ GD years
    I don’t think most hackers concern themselves much with breaking federal wiretap laws.
    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

  6. #16
    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts
    Faxes and hippa


    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    1,989
    Rep Power
    75

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    The problem is no one in the world can guarantee reliable, fast, high quality fax transmissions.....yet we're expected to fix the crap.

    Even when the manual describes an error code it's incomprehensible and useless for troubleshooting.

    DIE FAXES DIE

  7. #17
    Geek Extraordinaire 2,500+ Posts KenB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    3,950
    Rep Power
    126

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    Quote Originally Posted by rspicer View Post
    The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.
    A lot of times, not printing isn’t so much to conserve paper (or clicks), but to maintain better security.
    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

  8. #18
    Field Supervisor 500+ Posts
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    566
    Rep Power
    49

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    I've been telling customers with issues, nothing I can do. A common thread is "we will have to look elsewhere then" The salesman from other company says their fax works fine, blah, blah, blah.

    Another thing about emails and hippa is that emails are typically scanned for patterns of malware in them. Make the leap to say they are "read" by this so they say.

    Like was previously mentioned medical and legal are the cheapest professions around when it comes to updating office equipment. Why should they pay $$ for something that works when faxing is free.

    The really sad thing about hippa and faxing is there no longer is analog phone lines anywhere. It might be analog from our business to the central office of the phone company, but from there it follows the same path as emails, going through the same routers, switches, and gateways to it's final destination. Personally Hippa should re-evaluate fax security and proclaim it no longer compliant.

    The only drawback on email is that it is stored on the sending and receiving pc's. Contrast this to a fax, the original and the received pages are either stored securely in a file cabinet or shredded.

    We rely on internet security daily in our online purchases and bill pay. So the reliability and security is out there. The endpoints (starting and stopping computers) are the issue. If they are hacked we have a data breach. Really, what is the difference if my medical records get hacked in an email or through the medical data storage. At least an email is encrypted, their data storage probably is not.

    It's no win for everyone because cyber crime is hard to prove, difficult to trace, and there are few qualified to enforce it as well as difficult to punish.
    I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


    Especially when it comes to sex

  9. #19
    Senior Tech 100+ Posts BaconSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    140
    Rep Power
    19

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    Quote Originally Posted by rspicer View Post
    The funniest ones are the medical customers that insist on having fax to make it compliant, but have us program the machine to forward all received faxes to an email so it doesn't waste paper.
    I had one like this. They were also an Apple office (ugh). I guess there must have been an HIPAA update and Apple has become non HIPAA compliant. They had me come out and disable fax forwarding, turn on secure fax ( requires a code to release fax’s from memory) and help install print drivers and configure secure printing on all of their new Microsoft PCs. I admire their honesty and efforts to keep all of our information as secure as possible.

  10. #20
    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Meridian, MS
    Posts
    1,152
    Rep Power
    50

    Re: Faxes and hippa

    FAX is predicated and was designed strictly on the use of a POTS UTP Analog line. Any deviation from that BASTARDIZES the technology!!! Fax converted from analog to digital through VOIP or whatever other conversion service steps OUTSIDE the bounds of the point-to-point protocol when processed through digital but also bastardizes the audio tone/signal in the conversion process, potentially causing missed/dropped/broken & potentially hacked communications. I ALWAYS ask a customer if they have a DEDICATED ANALOG LINE!!! If they don't have a dedicated line & a consistent present dialtone, I go no further than to explain that fax was DESIGNED for a POTS UTP line and any other bastardization of the signal processing destroys the intent and functionality of the original communication process. And leave it at that!!! If the fax was working before they put in the damn VOIP device, well then, they need to contact the VOIP provider to work that shit out!!! I CERTAINLY don't get paid by the VOIP provider to troubleshoot their shit!!!Faxes and hippaFaxes and hippa...if you paid for the VOIP line to "save money" and your "fax doesn't work", well I guess you need to fix your own damn problem, don't you?!Faxes and hippa

    Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
    REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
    Konica Minolta Planetariums!
    https://www.konicaminolta.com/planet...gma/index.html

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Get the Android App
click or scan for the Copytechnet Mobile App

-= -= -= -= -=


IDrive Remote Backup

Lunarpages Internet Solutions

Advertise on Copytechnet

Your Link Here