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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    So, I'm going thru the 2nd course from a different instructor. I started to skip over the basics because I felt I already had it down pat. But I decided to go through it again. Now, I'll admit it was very boring going back over things that you already know. However, the first time around my head was spinning even when covering the basics. That "basics" aren't so simple when you don't know 'em.

    Anyway, this time my head wasn't spinning and I was able to pick up some things that I didn't the first time around. Specifically, I was able to key in on public IP addresses and give it my undivided attention. The CCNA test is gonna cover all the basics and you gotta know 'em inside and out.

    By the way, IP addressing and subnetting are a huge part of networking. That's where it all starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuby View Post
    Yea it is not a piece of cake. Seven of us went to take the test and only three of us passed it. But that was back in 2004.
    Congrats on a job well done. Unfortunately for me they've added a lot to the CCNA test since 2004:



    Under the old CCNA certification program, there were multiple concentration exams for different learning paths. However, under the new rules, the following certifications have all been replaced by the new CCNA:


    CCNA Cloud
    CCNA Collaboration
    CCNA Data Center
    CCNA Industrial
    CCNA Routing and Switching
    CCNA Security
    CCNA Service Provider
    CCNA Wireless
    CCDA (Cisco Certified Design Associate)

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    I'd like to share a conversation I watched on YouTube between the instructor in the course I'm taking and a software developer. Before I share the conversation, let me ask a question:


    is a Network Engineer today's plumber? (if you don't think so, you may change your mind after hearing the conversation)


    Software Developer: "Most of the networking done today is logical. Logical is just another name for software. A network engineer is the equivalent to a plumber in the 1970's."

    My instructor: "I don't feel like a plumber. I spent of lot of time on my certifications and I work in a high tech field."


    Software Developer: "From my perspective, we write all the software that give routers and switches the ability to move data over a network...all you do is connect the pipes."


    That was the gist of the conversation. It made me think about a lab that I completed the other day where I configured a Layer 3 switch to be a VLAN domain server. I was amazed that a Layer 3 switch could do something so awesome. But the truth is, all I did was turn the feature on by typing in a few command lines. It was the software developer that did all the hard work.

    I'll ask again: Is a network engineer todays plumber? Let me know what you think?

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Early in the thread I said that everything in networking has some kind of analogue in the read world. All the majority of it comes down to is packet switching so you're not as much a plumber as an old style telephone operator. You're just plugging packets from point A to point B with as little disruption as possible.

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Network Engineer today's plumber
    Pretty Ridiculous question
    NO

    Maybe you call the plumber the next time your network down in Mississippi

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Network Engineer today's plumber
    Pretty Ridiculous question
    NO

    Maybe you call the plumber the next time your network down in Mississippi
    typical response from you always putting people down.

    clearly you didn't listen to your mommie when she said " if you can't say anything nice to keep your PIEHOLE SHUT"

    maybe you need to start collecting RED CARDS again! after all this isn't a R&R thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    typical response from you always putting people down.

    clearly you didn't listen to your mommie when she said " if you can't say anything nice to keep your PIEHOLE SHUT"

    maybe you need to start collecting RED CARDS again! after all this isn't a R&R thread!
    Odd you don't follow what your preach

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    odd you don't follow what your preach
    not when talking to assholes such as you!

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Network Engineer today's plumber
    Pretty Ridiculous question
    NO

    Maybe you call the plumber the next time your network down in Mississippi
    You're just jealous because Billy knows more about networking than you ever will. Your IT skills are highly questionable.

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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    You're just jealous because Billy knows more about networking than you ever will. Your IT skills are highly questionable.
    So are his ' people skills '!

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