Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

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  • chester
    Technician
    • Jun 2016
    • 36

    #1

    Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

    My client has a fleet of Kyocera mfds which use Paper cut for logging in and monitoring usage.
    As it is a University, students use their own laptops to print documents by logging into the Paper cut platform and using Web print.
    The University computers are painfully slow, hence the students use their laptops.
    Last Thursday, I received a ticket to advise that several students were complaining that when submitting a word or pdf job in the web print application, it would take over 3 hours before the print was ready to be released from the queue.

    Previously to this, web print has its limitations, but very rarely played up.

    As the print servers are managed by the company I work for, I have asked the solution team if a patch may have been deployed on the server when the weekly maintenance is carried out.
    It would appear that it is mainly Office products that seem to cause the issue, where a print is held up due to it requiring a protected password.
    I have had very limited feed back from my solution team, but they did confirm that word documents converted into pdf formats did also cause the issue.
    I have spoken to the University solution guys who only install Office patchs to their client computers, and do not have access to the print servers as they are locked down by my company as the managed service.

    If anyone out there has any ideas or has come across this issue, then I would be grateful for feedback please.

    Chester
  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
    • 36903

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    Re: Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

    Any time slow printing is encountered, I would suspect either the driver or the port used by the computer that is trying to print. Most likely the "students" are not Computer Science students and have merely allowed Windows to automatically install the driver. This results in the WSD or some other IPP port being used and also the the Microsoft Kyocera Type driver being installed. I have seen the WSD port take as much as 30 minutes a page to spool a pdf job.

    BTW it is neither your job nor the university's information services help desk job to install drivers on computers owned by students.

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      5,000+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 8105

      #3
      Re: Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

      Does the University not have a Maintenenace & Support contract with Papercut?

      What version of Papercut MF is installed?
      Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 03-24-2023, 03:43 AM.

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      • chester
        Technician
        • Jun 2016
        • 36

        #4
        Re: Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        Does the University not have a Maintenenace & Support contract with Papercut?

        What version of Papercut MF is installed?
        Thanks for the feedback, the University has a full support package with my company, it is they that manage the print server and maintain the software on it.
        The solution team are like most service departments, over worked and under manned, leading to an indifferent service for my client.
        I suspect that the issue lies with the print server having some Office updates applied which have stuffed up the service.

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        • diedux
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          100+ Posts
          • Jan 2017
          • 124

          #5
          Re: Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

          Hi,
          Firstly, can you confirm student can upload MS office documents (.doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, etc.) directly to web print? Or do they convert all documents to PDFs and then upload them to a Web Print?
          If they do upload the MS docs directly, then PaperCut Web Print in sandbox mode is installed on a separate server and your (or IT team's) main focus should go there - not the print server.


          Regarding PDF rendering. I had this problem with Adobe Acrobat Reader (in Sandbox mode) a few months ago but found a workaround. Now, the problem is fixed in PaperCut 22.0.9
          Known issues with PaperCut MF, NG, Hive, Pocket and Mobility Print | PaperCut


          To sum up, the main question for you or your team:
          Is University using a Sandbox mode? If so, what engine is used to render PDFs, default one (xpdf) or Adobe?

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • Dec 2009
            • 8105

            #6
            Re: Paper Cut Web print very slow rendering prints due to protected print passwords

            Originally posted by chester
            Thanks for the feedback, the University has a full support package with my company, it is they that manage the print server and maintain the software on it.
            The solution team are like most service departments, over worked and under manned, leading to an indifferent service for my client.
            I suspect that the issue lies with the print server having some Office updates applied which have stuffed up the service.
            ... what version of Papercut MF is installed?

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