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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    No sure what salesguy could of posted that many times in a row because have him blocked. Hopefully he hit the submit button by mistake and not going on a tirade with dem rhetoric.

    Anyway I wanted to add something to be fair about Toshiba. I really based my opinion on 40+ years of working on them very seldom, going back to the Tos 3301 (which for the time wasn't a bad little machine) but most I worked on over the years were bad. I'm sure they had a good box every now and then but not often enough to compete with the big boys. I did post on here a while back that I worked on an older E-studio 288 about a year ago and it had a really nice print for older model! Had to replace a paper lift gear which I had never done before. Turned out to be easy to work on and only took 10 mins to replace the gear. So guess my lack of experience with them I have to take everyones word they are that bad.

    Never liked their TV's and copiers aren't much better.

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    No sure what salesguy could of posted that many times in a row because have him blocked. Hopefully he hit the submit button by mistake and not going on a tirade with dem rhetoric.

    Anyway I wanted to add something to be fair about Toshiba. I really based my opinion on 40+ years of working on them very seldom, going back to the Tos 3301 (which for the time wasn't a bad little machine) but most I worked on over the years were bad. I'm sure they had a good box every now and then but not often enough to compete with the big boys. I did post on here a while back that I worked on an older E-studio 288 about a year ago and it had a really nice print for older model! Had to replace a paper lift gear which I had never done before. Turned out to be easy to work on and only took 10 mins to replace the gear. So guess my lack of experience with them I have to take everyones word they are that bad.

    Never liked their TV's and copiers aren't much better.
    He was replying with quote to a number other techs that he disagreed with only instead of grouping them all in one post he replied to each individually so as to up his post count.Remember, he is a whacko Canadian.

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    He was replying with quote to a number other techs that he disagreed with only instead of grouping them all in one post he replied to each individually so as to up his post count.Remember, he is a whacko Canadian.

    Thanks slim, figured it was something like that. He's like every other dem I know, they are in panic mode with Sanders likely nominee. Socialist vs Trump = 4 mores years of Trump = at least one more supreme court justice (can't prop up ginsberg in a chair anymore) Haha

    Wanted to add, what the hell is a Canadian getting invloved with our politics for! Take care of your own liberal country. Last thing we need here is to become like Canada! GET LOST
    Sales can reply but I'll never see it. Not interested in one thing he has to say. Typical copier saleman, ALL LIARS
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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Unlike Konica Minolta,Toshiba America is much more brand agnostic.

    Becoming a Toshiba opens up to your dealership the Lexmark, HP and Brother Pro line hardware.

    Toshiba is Lexmark USA's largest distributor.

    Toshiba relabels three of Lexmark's most popular A4 MFPs.

    Expect a new line of A4 Toshiba manufactured MFPs to be announced in May 2020.

    Many Toshiba apps are no charge. Many Konica Minolta apps have a fee.

    To get an excellent feel for how current Toshiba copiers work, I recommend you review the many "How to" videos found on Linkedin called "Toshiba Tip Tuesday".

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashta...hibaTipTuesday
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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    [QUOTE = SalesServiceGuy; 1299831] A differenza di Konica Minolta, Toshiba America č molto pių indipendente dal marchio.

    Diventare un Toshiba apre alla tua concessionaria l'hardware della linea Lexmark, HP e Brother Pro.

    Toshiba č il principale distributore di Lexmark USA.

    Toshiba rietichina tre delle pių popolari stampanti multifunzione A4 di Lexmark.

    Aspettatevi che una nuova linea di prodotti multifunzione stampati Toshiba A4 sia annunciata nel maggio 2020.

    Molte app Toshiba sono gratuite. Molte app di Konica Minolta hanno un costo.

    Per avere un'idea eccellente di come funzionano le attuali fotocopiatrici Toshiba, ti consiglio di rivedere i molti video "How to" trovati su Linkedin chiamati "Toshiba Tip Tuesday".

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashta...hibaTipTuesday [/ QUOTE]


    you work for toshiba?: D

    toshiba are made of waste paper and have hallucinated firmware

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    I started on toshiba just when the e-studio range was released. The manuals were in mandarin and very broken English.
    Was helish to follow the manuals and they were fragile..

    Strange because right before that i serviced a toneon government Toshiba analogs, and they were brought in to the shop for PM's and al most every last one was still good to go past PM time.
    Solid and joy to work on in comparison to the FT3130 Ricoh of the time that had no auto adjustment for anything the Toshiba had none of that.

    So asking B.C just because im sure he will not sugar coat anything.
    On running cost comparing a new Toshiba color and a Biz Hub, if you had to put out your own machines there witch one makes more sense.

    Here Toshiba and Risograph always stick together, The schools like the combo for the much reduced running cost of the Riso and the convenience to edit documents on the copier platen.
    Whatever

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Reviewing again all of these comments, they are made by technicians who all agree that they have not worked on a Toshiba in maybe 10+ years.

    Currently, according to Xerox, Toshiba has the #5 A3 market share in the USA. That does not happen by luck or get held back by grumpy copier tech comments.

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Then again the Toshiba's was not that difficult to repair, they did work.
    Just recall the amount of glue for the side door and fuser area i used.

    Lighter than a Canon...

    Hey i like Konica Minolta machines. They are kick ass.
    Whatever

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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    Here when I was working on Toshy they rise to the number one on the market. Many big dealers. Then market changed and KonMin started to arise, they are bigger now as Toshiba was. So almost all Toshiba dealers started to sell KM in place of Toshiba. I have a lot of ex colleagues and friends that was working on Toshiba and then KM. No one to regret. All said KM are more reliable, easy to work and much profitable.
    Again, that was some time ago and Toshiba may improved on their weak sides. Number 5 in 🇺🇸 means something.
    Still would love to work on Toshiba 13xx analog copier every day, they are unbreakable.
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    Re: Konica Minolta vs. Toshiba

    The KM machines are also getting lighter.
    If you had to pickup a machine would it be a C350 or a C364?

    Remember those Toshiba analog's as being a bright colorful machines the work on.
    The cam shell design on those was so modular it was super quick to take apart.
    Like the old Risograph machines rainbow color ribbon cables puts a smile on my face.
    Whatever

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