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    Service Vac suggestion.

    So had 3M toner Vac. Worked and died for a one year and few months.

    Bought quick replacement (60 eur) and works great but toner passes filter and create mess around.

    Bought an industry Vac whit paper filter + air Hepa h13 filter(180 Eur). Dead after Vacuming few production machines.

    Is 3M Toner Vac or whatever Katun sells this days only answer??


    I need suggestion for good reliable portable Toner Vac! Especially for use in production Konica Minolta machines.

    THX in advance.

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    AFAIK the 3M is the only long term answer. I've got two of them. The first started howling in 1998. It vacuums, but makes a most offensive sound. The second is over 20 years old, and still working fine.

    I've had to break out the spare occasionally, but even someone as deaf as I am wouldn't want to listen to it for any length of time. =^..^=
    Last edited by blackcat4866; 05-06-2022 at 07:45 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    AFAIK the 3M is the only long term answer. I've got two of them. The first started howling in 1998. It vacuums, but makes a most offensive sound. The second is over 20 years old, and still working fine.

    I've had to break out the spare occasionally, but even someone as deaf as I am wouldn't want to listen to it for any length of time. =^..^=
    I had a 3M die on me once. Took it apart and found that the motor brushes were shuck due to toner that over the years had bypassed the filter, melted and then hardened in place on the brushes. Got that cleaned off with Goof Off and used some emery cloth on the commutators while I had it apart. Worked great after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    I had a 3M die on me once. Took it apart and found that the motor brushes were shuck due to toner that over the years had bypassed the filter, melted and then hardened in place on the brushes. Got that cleaned off with Goof Off and used some emery cloth on the commutators while I had it apart. Worked great after that.
    I'll give it a shot. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    If you're looking for a new 3M vacuum, do a search for SCS which now owns the design of the 3M vac. The division was sold off by 3M a few years back, but the filtres and parts are identical.

    SCS - 497AJH HEPA VACUUM, 120VAC, NORTH AMERICA

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by rthonpm View Post
    If you're looking for a new 3M vacuum, do a search for SCS which now owns the design of the 3M vac. The division was sold off by 3M a few years back, but the filtres and parts are identical.

    SCS - 497AJH HEPA VACUUM, 120VAC, NORTH AMERICA
    $311 is great! I paid over $450 for mine, over 20 years ago.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    Convac small particle handheld is an alternative, but has a thermal cutoff that will kickin in about 5min of use and the bags instead of a toner filter box sucks.
    Whatever

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    Re: Service Vac suggestion.

    i would never buy the new STS when i can get the older style on ebay for 1/3 of the price. Have one at home/shop/warehouse....

    they run forever, even replaced the outlet socket when one of my guys kicked it over.

    3M Electronic Service Vacuum Model 497 Toner Dust Vac Tested (WORKS) | eBay

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    LOL! I had the C13/NEMA 5-15 cable start to spark, then smoke, then shot out cool green flames from the side of the connector. To be perfectly honest that cord had been jammed in and out of that vacuum box several times a day for 12 years before it shorted out. At the time I had a fried surge suppressor in the car. I spliced on the 15-5 connector and kept on working.

    It was pretty exciting though. Fire usually is. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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