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  • kalimero
    Technician
    • Oct 2008
    • 17

    #1

    Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

    Hello All,

    So far it the bizhub c220/c280/c360/c224/c284... models we were abble to use the black drum units as color,
    but now in the bizhub c258/c308 series when swapping the units black to color there is a quality issue.
    By eye the color DU and b/w DU ire indentical!

    Has anyone figured this up? What is the difference?

    Thanks!
  • habik
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 2013

    #2
    Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

    Originally posted by kalimero
    Hello All,

    So far it the bizhub c220/c280/c360/c224/c284... models we were abble to use the black drum units as color,
    but now in the bizhub c258/c308 series when swapping the units black to color there is a quality issue.
    By eye the color DU and b/w DU ire indentical!

    Has anyone figured this up? What is the difference?

    Thanks!
    Gap

    Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
    .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
    Firmwares HERE

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    • seriches
      Technician
      • Nov 2016
      • 10

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

      they now use charge rollers and colour ones are different to blk so wont work konica never sold any colour drums so changed the charege rollers so mc knows diff between colour and blk
      steve r

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      • Gaffers01
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        250+ Posts
        • May 2011
        • 333

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

        I know this is an old post but i presume everyone knows that you can change the black drum units to colour.

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        • habik
          Service Manager

          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 2013

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

          Originally posted by Gaffers01
          I know this is an old post but i presume everyone knows that you can change the black drum units to colour.
          Yes, chip & de-lug.

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          • kmfa

            #6
            Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

            Originally posted by kalimero
            Hello All,

            So far it the bizhub c220/c280/c360/c224/c284... models we were abble to use the black drum units as color,
            but now in the bizhub c258/c308 series when swapping the units black to color there is a quality issue.
            By eye the color DU and b/w DU ire indentical!

            Has anyone figured this up? What is the difference?

            Thanks!
            really ? k drum = color drum ?

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            • Tech Helpdesk
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Jul 2015
              • 112

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

              Originally posted by habik
              Yes, chip & de-lug.

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              We don't bother changing the chips we use adapters !


              Very easy to convert the black drums to color and the savings are massive.
              Attached Files

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              • habik
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 2013

                #8
                Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                Originally posted by Tech Helpdesk
                We don't bother changing the chips we use adapters !


                Very easy to convert the black drums to color and the savings are massive.
                That's neat! Nice one!

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                .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
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                • jrf
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 142

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                  Originally posted by Tech Helpdesk
                  We don't bother changing the chips we use adapters !


                  Very easy to convert the black drums to color and the savings are massive.
                  Very clever, could you please explain exactly what you do.
                  Thanks

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                  • Max
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 546

                    #10

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                    • Coggers
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                      Originally posted by Gaffers01
                      I know this is an old post but i presume everyone knows that you can change the black drum units to colour.
                      Hi could you tell me a bit more on how to change the c258 black drum to fit the colour and what we need to do
                      I notice katun do a reset chip tool is this what we need?
                      Your help would be greatly received

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                      • gen67
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                        u can use the BK drum for all colors.

                        u need a color-chip (im not sure if katun have them)
                        and u need to exchange the front holder of the new black drum with the holder of the old color drum. (because theres a bigger spacer (to the dev unit) in front that results in half copies in color. (its the black holder 3(+2) screws under the blue front grip (2 screws)
                        and at last theres a black stopper backside of the drum wich has to be removed.

                        on new drums it could be hard to exchange the drum-chip because now there is no screw. maybe break the old one and glue the new one.

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                        • Gift
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2444

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                          Originally posted by Tech Helpdesk
                          We don't bother changing the chips we use adapters !


                          Very easy to convert the black drums to color and the savings are massive.
                          Nice, where do you purchase them? I was going to create some sort of resetter for this docking port but dropped the project due to a lack of time (and chips from china are very cheap).

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                          • lazymangr
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 115

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                            Originally posted by habik
                            Yes, chip & de-lug.

                            Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk

                            what you mean de-lug?

                            Originally posted by Tech Helpdesk
                            We don't bother changing the chips we use adapters !


                            Very easy to convert the black drums to color and the savings are massive.
                            where do i find this?

                            we used to chip away on 4e machines and behind, but so far never needed to replace any drum to 8 series

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                            • flippinsweet
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 34

                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub C258 color and Bw drum unit

                              You just need to remove the blue cover with 2 screws then remove the 3 lower screws to remove the bracket. Do not remove the 2 upper screws (which look slightly different) as this can effect copy quality and cause damage to the drum / dev. You also have to snap off the black plastic lug that sits on the same side as where you find the serial number but a bit further down.

                              I'm pretty sure you can use the c224 drum chips to reset these units too.

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