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  • swappedsr
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 5

    [Misc] C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

    I have an issue and I hope someone may lead me in the right direction here. We have automated print jobs from a proprietary program we are running. This program doesn't direct print, it points to the printer on a print server. These jobs off and on have problems where it prompts on the printer to put 8 1/2 x 11 in the bypass tray or to pick another tray. This all started to be a problem around the time when someone started printing an 8 1/2 x 14 document from Word. Somehow it tends to fix itself somehow. I have tried a lot of different things, the default settings for this printer on the print server look correct. The user only has print rights and the printer defaults are set to 8 1/2 x 11 and auto tray. The auto tray settings are also selected for trays 1 and tray 2, which have only 8 1/2 x 11 in them. One thing I noticed is that the bypass tray once filled with 8 1/2 x 14 by the user who prints those word docs is that size stays for the bypass tray even if there is nothing in it. I got it to print correctly once when I had put in 8 1/2 x 11 paper in the bypass tray and pulled it out and shut the bypass door, the job then pulled from tray 1 like normal. I had problems replicating that today. Anyway, I have tried changing settings on the bypass tray, I have defaulted the printer on the print server to print to tray 1. I set the printer so that it's settings overrides the printer driver. I am not sure where to look here to resolve this problem.
  • bsm2
    IT Manager

    25,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 27164

    #2
    Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

    Originally posted by swappedsr
    I have an issue and I hope someone may lead me in the right direction here. We have automated print jobs from a proprietary program we are running. This program doesn't direct print, it points to the printer on a print server. These jobs off and on have problems where it prompts on the printer to put 8 1/2 x 11 in the bypass tray or to pick another tray. This all started to be a problem around the time when someone started printing an 8 1/2 x 14 document from Word. Somehow it tends to fix itself somehow. I have tried a lot of different things, the default settings for this printer on the print server look correct. The user only has print rights and the printer defaults are set to 8 1/2 x 11 and auto tray. The auto tray settings are also selected for trays 1 and tray 2, which have only 8 1/2 x 11 in them. One thing I noticed is that the bypass tray once filled with 8 1/2 x 14 by the user who prints those word docs is that size stays for the bypass tray even if there is nothing in it. I got it to print correctly once when I had put in 8 1/2 x 11 paper in the bypass tray and pulled it out and shut the bypass door, the job then pulled from tray 1 like normal. I had problems replicating that today. Anyway, I have tried changing settings on the bypass tray, I have defaulted the printer on the print server to print to tray 1. I set the printer so that it's settings overrides the printer driver. I am not sure where to look here to resolve this problem.

    Have them call the proprietary program and check the printer settings. If the user has no control of tray settings then the command to print and tray is coming from the program. IE if MS word says print from tray 1 , it will print from tray 1 no matter what the printer settings or printer driver are set too.

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    • rrrohan
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Sep 2011
      • 1970

      #3
      Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

      What "No Matching Paper in tray settings" set to?

      Stop printing or switch traysno matching paper.JPG

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      • swappedsr
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2019
        • 5

        #4
        Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

        Originally posted by bsm2
        Have them call the proprietary program and check the printer settings. If the user has no control of tray settings then the command to print and tray is coming from the program. IE if MS word says print from tray 1 , it will print from tray 1 no matter what the printer settings or printer driver are set too.

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        • bsm2
          IT Manager

          25,000+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 27164

          #5
          Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

          Originally posted by swappedsr
          So thats the thing I can manually run the same job through this proprietary app, and when sent to another bizhub (364), it prints just fine from tray 1. I talked to one of our programmers and she said it uses the print server queue for that printer that has the issue, so I was thinking it is using the the default print settings of that printer that is on the print server. Those default print settings of the printer on the print server don’t have the bypass tray as a default. I didn’t mention before, but also when the issue happens, the first page always prints from tray 1 and then it prompts to put 8 1/2 x 11 in the bypass or choose a different tray. This is also when the bypass tray has 8 1/2 x 11 listed for bypass or what it read as the last paper size that was put into the bypass tray. I think also, I have to check, when the last paper source in the bypass is 8 1/2 x 14 in the bypass tray, if I send the print job from the program again, it prints the first page and prompts on the printer to put in 8 1/2 x 14 in the bypass or choose another tray. Very strange issue.

          The proprietary program is the issue not the copier. Have them configure there print q correctly.

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          • swappedsr
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2019
            • 5

            #6
            Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

            Originally posted by bsm2
            The proprietary program is the issue not the copier. Have them configure there print q correctly.

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            • swappedsr
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2019
              • 5

              #7
              Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

              Originally posted by rrrohan
              What "No Matching Paper in tray settings" set to?

              Stop printing or switch trays[ATTACH=CONFIG]42191[/ATTACH]

              I am pretty sure i tried this but will again today. Where is the tray priority setting for when you choose switch trays. Want to make sure that is set to tray 1.

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              • swappedsr
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2019
                • 5

                #8
                Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

                Originally posted by rrrohan
                What "No Matching Paper in tray settings" set to?

                Stop printing or switch trays[ATTACH=CONFIG]42191[/ATTACH]

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                • bsm2
                  IT Manager

                  25,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 27164

                  #9
                  Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray


                  each printer has it's own print q and driver

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                  • tsbservice
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                    5,000+ Posts
                    • May 2007
                    • 7512

                    #10
                    Re: C368 - Print jobs default to bypass tray

                    Administrator settings-System settings-Blank page print settings-Do not Print
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