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    [PICS] What needs replacing here?

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    Hehe let it rip.
    Hey i do use chips by the way and fuck me for doing it.
    but you are not trying to mislead your customers or sell the machines as "refurbs"
    big difference

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Synthohol View Post
    but you are not trying to mislead your customers or sell the machines as "refurbs"
    big difference
    Yes very true. Doing that can only hurt your reputation.
    Re-chipping the units works better than to just enable life stop.
    Its good practice to remove the units to inspect and clean them. Getting the toner dusting off of the charge grids help.
    Also helps to reset the aging compensation. From there increase your drum charge a bit.

    For customer that sign up for high color quality they get what they pay for. Parts gets replaced at service time.
    That recipe make for a very trouble free machine for sure.

    The money that can be saved dealing with those troubles brings the printing cost down a bunch.
    Whatever

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Yes you are on the right track.
    4 x drums and remember to clean the laser glass after installing.

    Its a user changeable part and replacing the chips will save you a bunch.
    Somewhere you got good advise.
    Whatever

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Hi, change the drums. The replacement is not so complicated, in some cases we have it sent directly to the customer and he replaces them. On Youtube you will find tutorials.
    C284e Series How To - Replace A Drum Unit - YouTube

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Synthohol View Post
    fuck the chip and all who use them.
    replace the damn worn consumables and fix the damn thing!
    When I worked at a tighta$$ dealer I quickly realised such devices only serve the purpose of increasing the wealth of the dealership owner. I don't like to lie to people and we were told to go around to customers who had requested imaging units etc to reset them instead. The excuses we were asked to use were outright lies and we were expected to be convincing.

    And for what?

    For the dealer principal to show up in a new Ferarri the week after telling us we cant afford pay rises this year.

    I'm with you Synthohol.

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarthKmTech View Post
    When I worked at a tighta$$ dealer I quickly realised such devices only serve the purpose of increasing the wealth of the dealership owner. I don't like to lie to people and we were told to go around to customers who had requested imaging units etc to reset them instead. The excuses we were asked to use were outright lies and we were expected to be convincing.

    And for what?

    For the dealer principal to show up in a new Ferarri the week after telling us we cant afford pay rises this year.

    I'm with you Synthohol.
    lucky the 8 series have a software switch to just disable the consumables screen instead.

    and it wasnt a new Ferrari it was 2nd hand haha

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Just wanted to take a moment to clarify my stance on this. If you are replacing the drums with black drums and putting a new chip on it I have no problem with that only when people replace the chips to avoid replacing a worn or timed out consumable

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Synthohol View Post
    Just wanted to take a moment to clarify my stance on this. If you are replacing the drums with black drums and putting a new chip on it I have no problem with that only when people replace the chips to avoid replacing a worn or timed out consumable
    Agreed. We tried rechipping when it is fair, practical, helpful, honestly, openly done with customer informed. Problem with these 4 series is not too much after the drums are past yield they will streak and eventually pull developer, sometimes pulling enough dv out to run spiral designs, near empty mag roller until the customer reports freaky waves or tcr levels cause a code. Then you have to rescue or replace a dv unit.
    Just do exactly as blackcat4866 says.
    Clean laser slits and wand down the chargers. Since the drums are probably going to be replaced anyway, I have no problem telling the user to (take the drum outside in the shade) get a can of air and stick the straw in the gap between the plastic/mylar and the drum & blow off the charger screen grid under the drum to help clean the charger where the wand wont. It will help reduce maybe 50% or more of those lines. It will buy you some time but best to buy the 4k oem drums and chip cmy. RE-clean the laser slits underneath after any drum install. Instant success. DV's should be good for a lot longer.

    BTW, KM has riveted the K chip on now, so careful removing the rivet. If you cut off the top, the rivet shaft will fall into the charger and cause hell. Best to get a 100 watt solder gun, touch the rivet for just a few seconds and lift the chip with a flat blade screwdriver. The rivet will melt its way out the top. Smear enough plastic back into the hole to screw in your new chip, or get the right size screw to do so. You can use the old drum's charge cover screws. they are perfect. Some people double stick tape the chips down.

    Keep yer powder (& paper) dry!

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Second post(Replied to the wrong thread first)

    Thank you for to all those that helped! All units have been replaced, rechipped from black unit and everything is spot on.

    AMAZING! Not felt this happy for a long while.

    Apart from a burnt finger from my solder iron, everything went smoothly.
    I will be donating to the forum at the end of the month when my salary hits.

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    [PICS] What needs replacing here?

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    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    You'll get used to the burns from the soldering iron. You don't even feel them after a while.

    Congratulations on your success. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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