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    8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?


    Question I posed on another thread about drum noise... This is not about that.

    I'd really like to know why the claim that the k drum is not the same as the cmy for the 8 series as it has been for the 0 and 4/e series. Yes there's a plastic stopper (easily removed). Then there's the chip. What else? I'm told you can't just chip an 8 series k drum as cmy... Why?

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    8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    So you'll pay a lot more for the color drums? =^..^=
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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    I would think that a K drum plus cmy chip = color drum. Same on c220 DR311 and c224e DR512 but, I have it from a "respected engineer" at a vendor that insists he has a tested & proven solution but without that, you can't get away with it on an 8 series dr313. I don't want to just jump and say B.S. If he's being truthful, he's sitting on a lot of money to be made. Exactly the motivation for lying as well. We put a K & CMY side by side and see nothing evident but the side stopper & the chip.
    Anybody???

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Since I answered this in the other thread, here is a link to the answer. It will explain perfectly what the differences are...

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Saw that. Thanks again!

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Hi pal,

    for my own personal exp, you can't do the trick of CMYK on K drum like past series (chips included)

    I had trouble and then on this 8 series you need to buy original 8 series colour drum because either screws in new drum are calculated, so if you don't want to replace all plastic case of past series with plastic case of new 8 series for refurbishing all drum, for me, don't waste time and buy original series 8 color drum.

    I hope I was clear in explanation.

    Cheers :-)

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by femaster View Post
    Since I answered this in the other thread, here is a link to the answer. It will explain perfectly what the differences are...

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    I have made a correction and clarification post with regards to my previous post on the subject at the link below...

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    8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don N. View Post

    Question I posed on another thread about drum noise... This is not about that.

    I'd really like to know why the claim that the k drum is not the same as the cmy for the 8 series as it has been for the 0 and 4/e series. Yes there's a plastic stopper (easily removed). Then there's the chip. What else? I'm told you can't just chip an 8 series k drum as cmy... Why?
    Yes you can fit K to YMC. Swap the black plastic clamp behind the front blue cover & swap over the spacers from the ends of the drum & of course the chip.
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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Yes you can fit K to YMC. Swap the black plastic clamp behind the front blue cover & swap over the spacers from the ends of the drum & of course the chip.
    Watch out for restyled DR313K drum unit where you cannot just swap end caps from color to K drum as before.
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    Re: 8 series K vs CMY drums. What's the diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    Watch out for restyled DR313K drum unit where you cannot just swap end caps from color to K drum as before.
    Why, what specifically have they changed?
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