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    DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    The adf maint kits are the same for the newer DF-701 (4 series) and the older DF-621 (223 series) feeders with the exception of the separation roller assembly.

    DF-701 Doc Feeder (ADF) Separation Roller Assembly - 200K Konica Minolta Part# A3CFPP4H00
    DF-621 Doc Feeder Separation Roller Assembly - 200K Konica Minolta Part# A143PP0100

    Just pulled both sep roller assemblies off our stock shelf and they appear identical down to the very smallest detail. The only difference is the older 223 series assembly costs us 1/2 the price of the 4 series assembly.

    Guess we will be using the apparently identical cheaper DF-621 part in the future if nobody here advises us against using it.
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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Quote Originally Posted by blazebusiness View Post
    The adf maint kits are the same for the newer DF-701 (4 series) and the older DF-621 (223 series) feeders with the exception of the separation roller assembly.

    DF-701 Doc Feeder (ADF) Separation Roller Assembly - 200K Konica Minolta Part# A3CFPP4H00
    DF-621 Doc Feeder Separation Roller Assembly - 200K Konica Minolta Part# A143PP0100

    Just pulled both sep roller assemblies off our stock shelf and they appear identical down to the very smallest detail. The only difference is the older 223 series assembly costs us 1/2 the price of the 4 series assembly.

    Guess we will be using the apparently identical cheaper DF-621 part in the future if nobody here advises us against using it.
    They are interchangable. I've used the 223 ADF roller assembly in the DF-624 & DF-701. You are correct, only the sep assembly is different.

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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    They are interchangable. I've used the 223 ADF roller assembly in the DF-624 & DF-701. You are correct, only the sep assembly is different.
    I guess what I was trying to say was that the separation assemblies are not different at all. Different part numbers but identical down to the smallest detail. Have you used the sep assembly in the 223 kit in the 4 series adf’s?

    I just installed a 223 adf sep assembly one a moment ago in a 224e adf and fits perfect. Looks like the exact same oem unit. And costs half as much.
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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Quote Originally Posted by blazebusiness View Post
    I guess what I was trying to say was that the separation assemblies are not different at all. Different part numbers but identical down to the smallest detail. Have you used the sep assembly in the 223 kit in the 4 series adf’s?

    I just installed a 223 adf sep assembly one a moment ago in a 224e adf and fits perfect. Looks like the exact same oem unit. And costs half as much.
    If not mistaken the Biz 223 (Df-621) sep roller shaft is plastic and why I don't use it in DF-624 & DF-701.

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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    If not mistaken the Biz 223 (Df-621) sep roller shaft is plastic and why I don't use it in DF-624 & DF-701.
    That would explain the difference then.....thanks.
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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    We just use the standard feed tires for everything, including the ADF DFP tires. Granted the standard tires wear a bit faster than the harder ADF DFP tires found on some of the newer models, they aren't nearly as expensive either. This cuts down on the number of different parts we have to carry in our vans.

    Simple as sliding a very small flat blade screwdriver between the worn out DFP tire and the plastic shaft, then using a small pair of side cutters to cut the old tire off the DFP tire core. Grab a new standard feed tire, stick that small flat blade screwdriver between the new tire and plastic core, dump in a little alcohol on the hole wear the screwdriver is, then slide the screwdriver around the plastic core to coat the whole thing in alcohol. Pull out the screwdriver and slide the new tire off the regular, then immediately slide it onto the old DFP tire shaft. Install the "new" DFP tire and be on your way. After you've done it a few times, doesn't take any time at all.
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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Simple as sliding a very small flat blade screwdriver between the worn out DFP tire and the plastic shaft, then using a small pair of side cutters to cut the old tire off the DFP tire core. Grab a new standard feed tire, stick that small flat blade screwdriver between the new tire and plastic core, dump in a little alcohol on the hole wear the screwdriver is, then slide the screwdriver around the plastic core to coat the whole thing in alcohol. Pull out the screwdriver and slide the new tire off the regular, then immediately slide it onto the old DFP tire shaft. Install the "new" DFP tire and be on your way. After you've done it a few times, doesn't take any time at all.
    That's exactly I am doing since years. Only do I not use alcohol but Windex. Not in the field but in the workshop we use instead of the screwdriver compressed air to loosen the new tire from the shaft.

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    Re: DF-701 and DF-621 maint kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Hansoon View Post
    That's exactly I am doing since years. Only do I not use alcohol but Windex. Not in the field but in the workshop we use instead of the screwdriver compressed air to loosen the new tire from the shaft.

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    Just ordered 50x of the ribbed rollers. We/I will see.
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