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    C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    So nothing some glue can't fix?
    Not with the 20lbs of spring pressure unfortunately.

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    So nothing some glue can't fix?
    As a temporary, I drilled the broken off shaft #37 (coat hanger size), drilled the bracket again #37. Then epoxied in a length of coat hanger wire. I would have liked to let the epoxy cure longer, so the resulting piece wasn't quite as well aligned as I might have liked, but it was mostly indestructible. I might still have it around, someplace. =^..^=

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    Last edited by blackcat4866; 09-29-2020 at 10:53 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthohol View Post
    The roller is usually fine, it's the spring loaded post on the right side that breaks and you usually won't see it unless you lift the assy and see the while right side comes up.
    Wish I had a pic.
    It's the right side of the pressure cam. Rotate the cam and look for unusual movement and broken parts.

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    Thank you Sir! it truly is broken(if you examine the picture closely enough, you could see where the spring ended up:-))
    i was wondering why this thing is flapping in the breeze already...^^

    I am stunned by your remote-diagnostic-skills and obviously long experience in the field. Hatīs off to you Sir!

    "Master Of The Obvious" - Blackcat4866 already pointed out a temporary solution already, will try to do the same.


    thank you again for your precious time. i am aware that time is the most valuable estate we have got. i am very thankful.
    Last edited by subalot; 09-30-2020 at 05:17 PM. Reason: bracket text added

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    As a temporary, I drilled the broken off shaft #37 (coat hanger size), drilled the bracket again #37. Then epoxied in a length of coat hanger wire. I would have liked to let the epoxy cure longer, so the resulting piece wasn't quite as well aligned as I might have liked, but it was mostly indestructible. I might still have it around, someplace. =^..^=

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    Thank you Sir for contributing to my innocent stupidity by providing an affordable solution to one of the "hidden beauty mistakes" my Dumpster-Girl had hidden under her weighty belly

    as i am an r/c guy as well i do have experience with shredded wheel-hexes my favorite cure: epoxy+ metal-rods!

    hopefully my skills will be enough to give your fix a shot:-)

    thank you for posting, very much appreciated!!!!

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by subalot View Post
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    Thank you Sir! it truly is broken
    i was wondering why this thing is flapping in the breeze already...^^

    I am stunned by your remote-diagnostic-skills and obviously long experience in the field. Hatīs off to you Sir!

    "Master Of The Obvious" - Blackcat4866 already pointed out a temporary solution already, will try to do the same.


    thank you again for your precious time. i am aware that time is the most valuable estate we have got. i am very thankful.
    Good thread to read. At least you returned us the faith that someone untrained and obviously inexperienced has the thinking and will assist to the best he can in truly respectful way. Wonderful!
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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    As a temporary, I drilled the broken off shaft #37 (coat hanger size), drilled the bracket again #37. Then epoxied in a length of coat hanger wire. I would have liked to let the epoxy cure longer, so the resulting piece wasn't quite as well aligned as I might have liked, but it was mostly indestructible. I might still have it around, someplace. =^..^=

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    I've noticed that you keep a database that's complete with pictures of your fixes/solutions. That's the way its done as its hard to remember all of it and you can refer back to the information if/when you run into it again. Props.

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    There are plenty of tricks to keep these machines running. Rebuild kits for the units.
    Humor yourself and get a quote for one of the image units. Also check what a new replacement is worth.
    Pricey stuff.
    You might be supersized that there are plenty of them in the bin somewhere out there.
    Awesome printer to have for printing tens of thousands of prints a month.

    Please take pics of your repair and then print some half-tones from service mode.
    Print them at 150 out of 255 and post that.

    What are you going to do with the machine, home printing use?
    Great of you to bring it back to use.

    What is the meter count on the machine?
    Check the consumable life.
    Whatever

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by subalot View Post
    photo_2020-09-30_17-18-45.jpg

    Thank you Sir! it truly is broken(if you examine the picture closely enough, you could see where the spring ended up:-))
    i was wondering why this thing is flapping in the breeze already...^^

    I am stunned by your remote-diagnostic-skills and obviously long experience in the field. Hatīs off to you Sir!

    "Master Of The Obvious" - Blackcat4866 already pointed out a temporary solution already, will try to do the same.


    thank you again for your precious time. i am aware that time is the most valuable estate we have got. i am very thankful.

    You have an advantage on me: I had other calls to get to, and I could only let the epoxy cure ~60 minutes. You can get it aligned perfectly and let it sit the full 24 hours ... even better 48. Yes please post your results. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

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    well, she ainīt that pretty tbh but, on the other hand, what do you expect from a dumpster-girl^^ sleazy outside,hard as nails inside...literally.
    used a 2mm drill bit on both the broken pieces, cut the strait side of an r-clip and epoxied both parts together.

    luckily i found the broken off plastic piece squeezed in between the right hand door and the paper exit conveyance assy (please no pitchforks if this part is actually called otherwise-please educate me here!! It was quite a hassle to actually find out what is the name of the darn thing is mounted on the door.... other than the duplex unit too, if i remember correctly???

    unfortunately the bigger white washer on the "spring-side" is gone. where exactly...nobody knows
    the 2 metal washers i will use almost resemble the same thickness of the silicone washer which i measured from the good working left side.

    i will let cure the epoxy for a little bit more and report back later

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    Re: C452 Dumpster to the Rescu(r)e!?!

    Nice! =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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