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    C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Hello,
    I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
    We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
    as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

    Any ideas?

    IMG_20201003_123859.jpgIMG_20201003_123841.jpg

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    C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.


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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamaicapepe View Post
    Hello,
    I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
    We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
    as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

    Any ideas?

    IMG_20201003_123859.jpgIMG_20201003_123841.jpg

    You need to get rid of P-21 so you can do gradation adj

    I would start with making sure the IDC sensors are clean & shutter opening ok.

    Possible it needs at least the Magenta drum.
    Swap the magenta drum unit with the Cyan drum unit and see if the Magenta over bleed turns to cyan. Then you will know original magenta drum is bad.

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    C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamaicapepe View Post
    Hello,
    I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
    We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
    as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

    Any ideas?

    IMG_20201003_123859.jpgIMG_20201003_123841.jpg
    Clean the patch sensors & then run 'initialise + stabilize in CE mode.

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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Likely patch sensors or try crash stop A3 paper partly in the fuser and see where image is mis-registering.
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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    You need to get rid of P-21 so you can do gradation adj

    I would start with making sure the IDC sensors are clean & shutter opening ok.

    Possible it needs at least the Magenta drum.
    Swap the magenta drum unit with the Cyan drum unit and see if the Magenta over bleed turns to cyan. Then you will know original magenta drum is bad.
    I can't seem to find the IDC sensors. As i see in the manual they should be under the 2nd transfer roller or am i wrong?

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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Clean the patch sensors & then run 'initialise + stabilize in CE mode.

    Hi! What do you mean by "patch sensors"? I can't find anywhere in service manual. Also CE mode = Service mode?

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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamaicapepe View Post
    I can't seem to find the IDC sensors. As i see in the manual they should be under the 2nd transfer roller or am i wrong?
    They are under TBU(right side).

    Quote Originally Posted by jamaicapepe View Post
    Hi! What do you mean by "patch sensors"? I can't find anywhere in service manual. Also CE mode = Service mode?
    Patch sensors = IDC sensors
    Last edited by tsbservice; 10-03-2020 at 06:22 PM. Reason: Uggh, right side not rear
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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Cleaning the IDC Sensors cleared the error and fixed the colors! So... a huge thanx to everyone!

    Now there is another problem. I did a gradation test and it doesn't print black on the right side
    of the page as you can see in the image i upload now.

    As i said i have changed transfer belt recently and also changed the black drum.

    Does anybody know what else should we check???

    IMG_20201003_192224.jpg

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    C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamaicapepe View Post
    Cleaning the IDC Sensors cleared the error and fixed the colors! So... a huge thanx to everyone!

    Now there is another problem. I did a gradation test and it doesn't print black on the right side
    of the page as you can see in the image i upload now.

    As i said i have changed transfer belt recently and also changed the black drum.

    Does anybody know what else should we check???

    IMG_20201003_192224.jpg
    Clean the printhead with the cleaning tool inside the front door & clean the black charge wire & grid.
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    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Clean the printhead with the cleaning tool inside the front door & clean the black charge wire & grid.
    I will try on Monday and report back with the results. Once again thanx to everyone who helped!

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