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    Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Hello,
    I bought a new photocopier Konica c308 but i have some toner cartridge of my old Konica c284e (TN321x) to reuse.
    Probably the toner container is not compatible with the new c308, I don't know.
    Anyway I ask if it is possible to refill the cartridges of c308 (CYMK) with the old toners of c284.
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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Let me be the first to say that this is a really really bad idea. If yo decide to do this, remember that I advised against it.
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    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francy View Post
    Hello,
    I bought a new photocopier Konica c308 but i have some toner cartridge of my old Konica c284e (TN321x) to reuse.
    Probably the toner container is not compatible with the new c308, I don't know.
    Anyway I ask if it is possible to refill the cartridges of c308 (CYMK) with the old toners of c284.
    Thank you
    Francy
    The c308 uses a different charge assembly on the drums than the c284 so I wouldn't recommend doing this, you may end up with at best a dev & drum unit failure or at worst a broken main drive unit.

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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francy View Post
    Hello,
    I bought a new photocopier Konica c308 but i have some toner cartridge of my old Konica c284e (TN321x) to reuse.
    Probably the toner container is not compatible with the new c308, I don't know.
    Anyway I ask if it is possible to refill the cartridges of c308 (CYMK) with the old toners of c284.
    Thank you
    Francy
    As others have said not a good idea, however I have done this on a number of occasions without any issues (none)
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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    When I was in the toner cartridge rebuilding business, I found that HP used the same toner for about 10 different cartridges. We would order this toner in bulk and it saved us a lot of money compared to ordering the individual bottles that had the correct grams. The only problem is we had to weigh out the correct grams which was a pain in the ass.

    With all that being said...you have no idea if this is the case in your situation. You're playing Russian Roulette. I wouldn't chance it. No way.

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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    When I was in the toner cartridge rebuilding business, I found that HP used the same toner for about 10 different cartridges. We would order this toner in bulk and it saved us a lot of money compared to ordering the individual bottles that had the correct grams. The only problem is we had to weigh out the correct grams which was a pain in the ass.

    With all that being said...you have no idea if this is the case in your situation. You're playing Russian Roulette. I wouldn't chance it. No way.
    I’ve already taken this chance multiple times as I said with no issues.

    As a test just try one colour maybe on an old/scrap model first, worst case you’ll only kill one dev unit.
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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Iíve already taken this chance multiple times as I said with no issues.

    As a test just try one colour maybe on an old/scrap model first, worst case youíll only kill one dev unit.
    Hey, as long as he understands the risk involved, I've got no problem with it. Go for it.

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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Works no problem. Same toner...

    If the machine replenish developer you will see a port from the devtank going into the waste box.
    In that case for K TN216/319 TN321/512 TN514 TN613/712 all the same.
    Take a teaspoon of developer from DV512 and TN414 and that will work just fine too but don't really recommend that for color machines, b/w no problem.
    If you use non developer containing toner like TN414 expect the devtanks to fail before 300K...

    The color CMY you can F*$#%up badly if you put developer containing toner in a non replenishing machine like a C287 or even a C360.

    For the C287 TN216/319CMY or even TN613CMY works just fine.

    Some KM toner works great on Xerox color....

    All at own risk been doing this for some time.

    Been feeding my 951's katun TN414...

    To answer yes it will work but...
    Last edited by allan; 11-26-2020 at 09:21 PM.
    Whatever

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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Hey, as long as he understands the risk involved, I've got no problem with it. Go for it.

    I had a few C224e series that would keep depleting the developer, so rather than replace the dev unit each time at high cost so with nothing to loose I topped then up using old dev I tipped out from C552 image units, to my surprise it worked perfectly! I still use this method today using old C654/C764 image units.




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    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    I had a few C224e series that would keep depleting the developer, so rather than replace the dev unit each time at high cost so with nothing to loose I topped then up using old dev I tipped out from C552 image units, to my surprise it worked perfectly! I still use this method today using old C654/C764 image units.




    I hear ya and I trust what you say. But you're a trained tech. I think this is an end user?

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