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    C227

    Hi everyone. I'm considering buying a C227 to sell but have heard rumors that it's not a good model. I'm familiar with the 4 series and 8 series but not the c227.

    Any thoughts you can share?

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    Re: C227

    Mechanically and functionally sound enough to pass. CMY are IU's and not drum and dev separate making the color IU's expensive. The black drum and dev is separately exchangeable and use developer replenishing.

    The change to contact charge rollers instead of corona charge lead to the drums and IU's not making it past the yield like the previous models. Also found that it does not quite keep up on toner feed for very high coverage.

    So good office color machine at its price point. Running cost on it is a bit high compared to the C308 .
    And not for a color print shop.
    Whatever

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    Re: C227

    Thank you thank you that is very helpful.

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    Yeah I don't like them especially compared to 8 series they seems like low cost alternative which they actually are. Still not bad overall, I hate small control panel, noisy duplex but in reality they will work. Have one b287(same engine without color IUs) close to 900k still running strong from PM to PM.
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    Thank you. The whole idea of the drum and developer unit being together sold me on not purchasing it. The old 220s and 280s cost a fortune to replace the IUs

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    Re: C227

    Quote Originally Posted by afterhours View Post
    Thank you. The whole idea of the drum and developer unit being together sold me on not purchasing it. The old 220s and 280s cost a fortune to replace the IUs

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    C220 series have separate drum units and dev units for all 4 of them unlike C227 series where all CMY are IUs.
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    Re: C227

    Sorry your right. I was working on a c220 when I sent that. I mean C203, c253, 353 etc.

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    Re: C227

    Please help,
    customer has Develop Ineo+ 227 (crossreference is Konica Minolta bizhub C227) and has message: replace imaging units: cyan, magenta, yellow, but when I check the maintenance count screen all maintenance is in good condition:

    Imaging units:
    (C) 29%, ends 12/25/2022
    (M) 29%, ends 12/25/2022
    (Y) 29%, ends 12/25/2022

    Developing unit:
    (K) 70%, ends 01/16/2033

    Drum unit:
    (K) 18%, ends 03/21/2022

    Fixing unit:
    64%, ends 11/04/2030

    Transfer roller:
    42%, ends 03/16/2025

    Transfer belt unit:
    27%, ends 04/23/2023

    What is wrong ? and why replace imaging units C, M, Y when they have 29% and ends 12/25/2022 ???
    Thank you.

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    Does the message actually say to replace them or to replace them soon? Big difference. If it says to replace soon, then the setting in the service mode for unit replacement is set to remind very early instead of normally. Can't remember the exact setting but something about pre-near life or something similar.
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    Re: C227

    Quote Originally Posted by spree View Post
    Please help,
    customer has Develop Ineo+ 227 (crossreference is Konica Minolta bizhub C227) and has message: replace imaging units: cyan, magenta, yellow, but when I check the maintenance count screen all maintenance is in good condition:

    Imaging units:
    (C) 29%, ends 12/25/2022
    (M) 29%, ends 12/25/2022
    (Y) 29%, ends 12/25/2022

    Developing unit:
    (K) 70%, ends 01/16/2033

    Drum unit:
    (K) 18%, ends 03/21/2022

    Fixing unit:
    64%, ends 11/04/2030

    Transfer roller:
    42%, ends 03/16/2025

    Transfer belt unit:
    27%, ends 04/23/2023

    What is wrong ? and why replace imaging units C, M, Y when they have 29% and ends 12/25/2022 ???
    Thank you.

    Bit strange but you can disable this warning with a firmware update & change a couple of SW settings in CE mode.
    Last edited by copier tech; 05-07-2021 at 07:51 AM.
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