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    Arrow Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by REGSIS View Post
    If you want to save and continue to use that drum unit K, you may try to take it apart.
    My best guess is that primary charge roller is creating a problem. Drum and drum cleaner should be ok.
    You can clean the cleaner just in case. Don't clean the drum especialy if there's nothing visible on surface.
    Clean primary charge roller with alcohol.
    PCR has its own cleaner.
    I think that the best way to clean it is to soak it in cold water and dry.

    I never tried this! Just my thoughts!
    The safest way is to replace K drum, and do the above on your free time for experimental purposes to see if it works and how long it will last afterwards.
    I experimented on 8 series PCRs and that won't work. I cleaned them they look good but once the lines come on page it's game over PCR is shot. I even cut the rubber with a knife to see if steel core is rusted or something to no avail. Cleaning works well on many small printers SOFT PCRs but this rubber on 8 series won't .
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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by REGSIS View Post
    ...
    Clean primary charge roller with alcohol.
    PCR has its own cleaner.
    I think that the best way to clean it is to soak it in cold water and dry.

    I never tried this! Just my thoughts! ...
    I think you'll find that if you clean the primary charge roller with anything you'll get very bad copies, much worse than when you started. I have not had success with cleaning Konica Minolta primary charge rollers.

    Keep in mind that the yield on the C250i drum is 120K, 91% of yield. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    I think you'll find that if you clean the primary charge roller with anything you'll get very bad copies, much worse than when you started. I have not had success with cleaning Konica Minolta primary charge rollers.

    Keep in mind that the yield on the C250i drum is 120K, 91% of yield. =^..^=

    Used to clean charge rollers with nothing but running water and a soft cloth.
    The older Ricoh machines saliva and cloth was the way.
    Whatever

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by blinxwap View Post
    I have a color registration error p-21 error on a c250i that is basically still new have cleaned idc sensors , removed transfer belt cleaned transfer belt cleaning section when ever the machine warms up or i do image stabilization , either it gives p-21 error of drum unit/developing unit magenta error any suggestions also the machine used 67% lofe of the drum unit k but it has n line on the drum unit k all the other drums are above 90% the machine doesnt even have about 100k copies on it

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    Wait, is this machine C250i OR C250?
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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    Wait, is this machine C250i OR C250?
    Well it can't be a C250 if it has a charge roller. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Well it can't be a C250 if it has a charge roller. =^..^=
    Completely agree Sir...but TS never said it has charge roller
    In fact he didn't bother to provide samples or answer a couple of questions we asked so I started to wonder why.
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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Good point.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    Like mentioned print CMYK half-tones at 150 and post that. If there is poor image creation in the area where the sensors read the patches registration can fail.
    Most of the time there is a P-code for the color causing the failure. P6 to P9.

    If its only P21 with no other code then its not complaining about density. For that it needs to find the patch first.


    How is the print if you do a demo page? Is the registration way out of wack?
    The gdi demo page colours have more green in it like the bird is suppose to be blue it is green

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    Also what exactly means "drum unit/developing unit magenta error"?
    What if you swap M with let's say C drum?
    Havent tried swapping the drums havent been to the machine yet waiting on parts to arrive

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    Re: C250i Color registration error P-21

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    Wait, is this machine C250i OR C250?
    C250i

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