Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Technician
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Leicester
    Posts
    34
    Rep Power
    8

    C284e constant graduation calibration

    Hello,

    Model : Konica Minolta C284e
    Original Drums, Original Toner

    New drums - all at 95%, this happens regardless if drums are old or new.

    I've had many issues with this printer and I am ready to part with it and get a replacement, it's due to arrive in a few weeks but in the meantime a little guidance would be great!
    For as long as I can remember every so often this printer will forget how to print certain tones (usually the faded pinks and greys), I then have to do around 10-15 graduation tests in one sitting to finally get it to kick start back, I dread turning the printer off as this is usually when it goes to s**t.

    Please see the photo below of what I get and eventually I can get it as close to normal as possible and colour printing resumes.



  2. #2
    Service Manager 10,000+ Posts
    C284e constant graduation calibration

    Phil B.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    22,792
    Rep Power
    661

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    Hello,

    Model : Konica Minolta C284e
    Original Drums, Original Toner

    New drums - all at 95%, this happens regardless if drums are old or new.

    I've had many issues with this printer and I am ready to part with it and get a replacement, it's due to arrive in a few weeks but in the meantime a little guidance would be great!
    For as long as I can remember every so often this printer will forget how to print certain tones (usually the faded pinks and greys), I then have to do around 10-15 graduation tests in one sitting to finally get it to kick start back, I dread turning the printer off as this is usually when it goes to s**t.

    Please see the photo below of what I get and eventually I can get it as close to normal as possible and colour printing resumes.



    notice the multi colored strip at the top? your blet cleaner blade is failing

    what are the page counts on other service parts?

    have you cleaned the density sensor?

  3. #3
    Technician
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Leicester
    Posts
    34
    Rep Power
    8

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    notice the multi colored strip at the top? your blet cleaner blade is failing

    what are the page counts on other service parts?

    have you cleaned the density sensor?
    I suspected the cleaning blade is failing, but I can live with that due to using the bypass tray in such a way that it doesn't print directly across when it doesn't clean properly, unless this is degrading it over time more?

    Image Transfer Belt : 10%
    Transfer Roller Unit: 35%
    Fusing Unit : 59%
    Total Prints : 232737

    Density sensor is the part where you push the stick through the hole a few times near the Drum units?

  4. #4
    Service Manager 10,000+ Posts
    C284e constant graduation calibration

    Phil B.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    22,792
    Rep Power
    661

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    I suspected the cleaning blade is failing, but I can live with that due to using the bypass tray in such a way that it doesn't print directly across when it doesn't clean properly, unless this is degrading it over time more?

    Image Transfer Belt : 10%
    Transfer Roller Unit: 35%
    Fusing Unit : 59%
    Total Prints : 232737

    Density sensor is the part where you push the stick through the hole a few times near the Drum units?
    you need to change out that ITB.... that could be the fix for your problem. is the image good on the belt or is it washed out?

  5. #5
    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    1,572
    Rep Power
    73

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Those sensors are accessible after the transfer belt is removed..They can certainly affect your 1/2 tones, but would not produce the PCQ on the posted sample. The cleaning blade is part of the belt so it would be replaced at the same time..Don't remember if 10% means used or left. KM likes to change this up every few models. You would want to clean the sensors, then stick the cleaning wand in to clean the slit glasses, then run a stabalizer and background reset. using the brightest paper you can find do the gradation adjustments. E

  6. #6
    Service Manager 5,000+ Posts tsbservice's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,154
    Rep Power
    346

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    I suspected the cleaning blade is failing, but I can live with that due to using the bypass tray in such a way that it doesn't print directly across when it doesn't clean properly, unless this is degrading it over time more?

    Image Transfer Belt : 10%
    Transfer Roller Unit: 35%
    Fusing Unit : 59%
    Total Prints : 232737

    Density sensor is the part where you push the stick through the hole a few times near the Drum units?
    So you're faking machine printing A4-R but in reality ITB cleaning section is failed due to debris or cleaning blade damaged as Phil mention. No wonder it will lose calibrations as density sensors are probably dirty.
    As temporary measure I would remove ITB clean both sensors remove cleaning section vacuum it and carefully clean blade and belt.
    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.

    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

    I don't reply to private messages from end users.

  7. #7
    Service Manager 5,000+ Posts
    C284e constant graduation calibration

    copier tech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    7,561
    Rep Power
    182

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    Hello,

    Model : Konica Minolta C284e
    Original Drums, Original Toner

    New drums - all at 95%, this happens regardless if drums are old or new.

    I've had many issues with this printer and I am ready to part with it and get a replacement, it's due to arrive in a few weeks but in the meantime a little guidance would be great!
    For as long as I can remember every so often this printer will forget how to print certain tones (usually the faded pinks and greys), I then have to do around 10-15 graduation tests in one sitting to finally get it to kick start back, I dread turning the printer off as this is usually when it goes to s**t.

    Please see the photo below of what I get and eventually I can get it as close to normal as possible and colour printing resumes.


    As others have said you need to replace the transfer unit (this comes with the cleaning unit)

    If you are confident to take this unit out you could remove & clean the cleaning unit manually (ironic eh!)

    This is why the machine is constantly running a gradation process because it can't read the patches (it lays down colour patterns on the belt to reference from)

    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk




  8. #8
    Technician
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Leicester
    Posts
    34
    Rep Power
    8

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    As others have said you need to replace the transfer unit (this comes with the cleaning unit)

    If you are confident to take this unit out you could remove & clean the cleaning unit manually (ironic eh!)

    This is why the machine is constantly running a gradation process because it can't read the patches (it lays down colour patterns on the belt to reference from)

    So a quick clean could extend the life? I have watched a few videos and the Image Transfer belt seems relatively easy to get out.

  9. #9
    Field Supervisor 500+ Posts
    C284e constant graduation calibration

    tulintron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais
    Posts
    641
    Rep Power
    32

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    So a quick clean could extend the life? I have watched a few videos and the Image Transfer belt seems relatively easy to get out.
    Cleaning is easy, I would try.But I believe it will not resolve.


    The marks on the print are exactly from the printed pattern tests for color calibration and registration.


    Change only the blade. If not, replace the unit.
    Nothing like day after day

  10. #10
    Service Manager 5,000+ Posts
    C284e constant graduation calibration

    copier tech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    7,561
    Rep Power
    182

    Re: C284e constant graduation calibration

    Quote Originally Posted by schmeckles22 View Post
    So a quick clean could extend the life? I have watched a few videos and the Image Transfer belt seems relatively easy to get out.

    Yes worth a try only 3 screws then once you have the transfer unit out the cleaning unit comes off with 2 screws.


    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk




Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Get the Android App
click or scan for the Copytechnet Mobile App

-= -= -= -= -=


IDrive Remote Backup

Lunarpages Internet Solutions

Advertise on Copytechnet

Your Link Here