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    Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.


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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Interesting that you guys have had issues with dirty lasers?? I've never had one out in the 8 series, even in dirty environments... huh?
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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Quote Originally Posted by REGSIS View Post
    Faded print yes, but vertical lines NO.
    Could be PH unit control board.

    Had these sypmtoms on 308e.
    They were very strange. Every day until noon machine produced black vertical lines. Image was zoomed in sub direction. In the afternoon prints were OK.
    After 10 day there were only bad prints all day long.

    That was KM machine under lease, so they replaced it with a new one.

    My guess was PH unit control board but never had a chance to try that solution.
    Once this machine started doing it (only on color), it never stopped the black lines until I removed the P/H and cleaned the polygon mirrors, so I'm hoping that was the issue and not P/H board. Time will tell.
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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    To remove the PH unit, you must first remove power supply board and small board on the bottom with two flat cables. That's a PH unit control board.

    So, you probably "solve" the problem by dissconnecting and connectin flat cables into it.

    No dirt can cause the vertical lines. Dirt in PH unit can only cause faint images. This is an electrical issue.
    This PH control board is cheap, better hope it is the cause rather than MFP board.

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    I have had those lines twice. First time machine was close to 2 million counter so we swapped machine. Second one I did swap board prior whole PH unit that didn't work. At the end I leave original machine's board and swap PH unit with another used(but good) one PH unit that fixed it.
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    Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Our dealership is primarily Toshiba, but also Kyocera, Konica Minolta, Lexmark, Kip, HP, Canon iPF, and others. The majority of dirty lasers I've seen are Toshiba & HP, but only because they made up the largest proportion of the machines. It's more about the environment than about the make.

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Nice to join in now and again.
    No amount of cleaning helped me - but a spare Poly Motor cleared it...

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Quote Originally Posted by REGSIS View Post
    To remove the PH unit, you must first remove power supply board and small board on the bottom with two flat cables. That's a PH unit control board.

    So, you probably "solve" the problem by dissconnecting and connectin flat cables into it.

    No dirt can cause the vertical lines. Dirt in PH unit can only cause faint images. This is an electrical issue.
    This PH control board is cheap, better hope it is the cause rather than MFP board.
    Well, that explains it if it's electrical. All I know is it needed the polygon mirrors cleaned and after I put it all back together, it worked and still is working. So, yes, might have been re-securing the cables that fixed the lines issue.

    BTW, this machine has 579K on it.
    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    I'm still in the dark ages here.
    Are the PH serviceable now on the 8 series?
    Or are you just doing it cause you know how to?

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    No, it should not be opened according to the service instructions,
    but if the problem can be solved only by cleaning the poligon mirrors, why not try,
    Write unit is not very cheap so worth trying.

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    Re: Black lines ONLY on Color prints C368. FIXED but still curious about symptoms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic View Post
    No, it should not be opened according to the service instructions,
    but if the problem can be solved only by cleaning the poligon mirrors, why not try,
    Write unit is not very cheap so worth trying.
    I have done it before, but you guys are talking like it is normal shit

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