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    C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    Hi,

    I have a customer with a C258 that has completely magenta copies/prints, I took the drum unit out and the charge roller was caked in magenta toner, the waste toner bottle was also full of magenta toner.
    I removed the drum and the recycling coil was blocked solid and on further inspection it had broken where the gear is attached at the back.

    I replaced the magenta drum and magenta developer unit and waste toner bottle.

    Then today I get the same call (600 copies since last call) and arrive on site and exactly the same thing had happened again.

    Do you think it maybe the HV board? I have had this issue on the 4e range but never on this range of machines?

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    You clearly have problems with voltages. What are readings is service mode - Vdc and Vg. Compare with other colors. Probably HVT is toasted. Also check the back of machine for clogged magenta air ducts.
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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    What is the page count? Genuine or aftermarket toner?

    Keep in mind "any" over life consumable can affect "any" other color.
    Last edited by copyman; 09-05-2022 at 11:05 PM.

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    The total count is 198k, they did have compatible toner as we were struggling to get Original toner. But it now has original toners back in.

    I have a machine in the workshop which I have taken the HV board off and will go there tomorrow and let you know the outcome.

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    For interest please check your TCR values. 0% is not good.
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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffers01 View Post
    The total count is 198k, they did have compatible toner as we were struggling to get Original toner. But it now has original toners back in.

    I have a machine in the workshop which I have taken the HV board off and will go there tomorrow and let you know the outcome.
    How long has the original toner been in? Did you put original toner in when you installed new drum & developer as mentioned in your OP? It takes some time for the good toner to work it's way in. If really bad aftermarket toner could of crashed the new dev unit you installed?

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    I've had 2 8 series machines that were using after market toner need to have their sub-hopper replaced for a similar reason. Definitely sounds more like a charge issue but if the numbers look good you may consider cleaning out the sub hopper with a vacuum and making sure there aren't any clumps or anything like that holding toner back and causing it to spill out.

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    An update to this issue

    Fitted a new HV board and now all working (1 week since installation)

    I've attached before and after screenshots of HV reading for anyone having a similar issue.

    Thanks for your help
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    Thanks for sharing these before/after pics

    I also seen this kind of issue if someone did a bad job converting a bk drum to color

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    Re: C258 Recycling Coil Broken

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffers01 View Post
    An update to this issue

    Fitted a new HV board and now all working (1 week since installation)

    I've attached before and after screenshots of HV reading for anyone having a similar issue.

    Thanks for your help
    Good job and thanks for following up with proper examples. Yellow TCR still a bit lower maybe you can increase it by 1 or 2 bits.
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