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    Creo IC-304 print controller stolen, desperate for help

    Hey guys whats up. Im looking for options as my office was broken into and my IC-304 controller was taken. I need suggestions badly as im completely down and without the 16,000 needed to replace it.

    I am planning to build a server and run it inside a virtual machine. However, what keeps me is the SCSI controller Creo uses. Can anyone give me any information on it? The fusionin board alone costs 15k and i frankly cant come up with it.

    Anyone that has any sort of info or experience, please help. I am thinking of buying a third party solution for the scsi interface and hope it will work the same, but want some info before i commit. Thanks

    Eddy Breton

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    Geek Extraordinaire 2,500+ Posts KenB's Avatar
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    Sorry to hear that you were robbed - that sucks.

    Unfortunately, the fusion card is a whole lot more than a SCSI card; it does most of the processing for printing and scanning.

    The license for the Creo software is contained on the fusion card. Ever notice that there is no license string or dongle anywhere? (Other than the XP license string.)

    The PC that the Creo runs on is merely a host - in fact it only has just enough RAM to run Windows - 512MB (504 actually, as 8MB is used for the video display.)

    Your best bet may be to see if you can find a used Creo somewhere.
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    wow sucks >_< Thanks for even replying KenB. Fiery has a solution for the 6501 and it looks somewhat doable. It's approx. $6,000 but what card does it use? Any idea? I frankly cant afford another IC-304 >_< Hates to get your stuff stolen

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    Any Fiery would use its own interface card, much like the Creo does. It would also be totally proprietary.

    Is it an X3eTY2? That one attaches to the back of the copier. The S450 series is a floor standing model.

    Hopefully, you're not referring to an X3e, which is the internal Fiery. You'd be really disappointed in it after using a Creo.

    BTW... What's really stupid is that your now hot Creo has pretty much zero street value. The PC itself without a fusion card is really lame. (I have one that I use as a training server in our service department.)
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    I wonder if the guys that took it had any idea what they were stealing? Did they take other PC's in the office? It's pretty useless without being attached to something.
    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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    Have you not got Contents insurance?

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    Im going to look into insurance but i dont think im covered for robbery. Only fire ect. I have surveillance videos of the kid that broke in. What bothers me is he went straight for the IC which was behind the machine all the way in the back of the office. Someone close mustve sent this kid. However, it seems without the cable the person can't do much. The fusion card is what hurts >_< If anybody knows a place where i can get the fiery or the card a bit cheaper, please send me a PM or post the phone number here.

    I thank everyone for replying, thanks for the support =)

    Eddy Breton

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    The guy that stole the unit has been found in the nearby projects =D Now police is interrogating him on the whereabouts of the units. Hope all this goes well, what a crazy last 24 hours

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    Talk about Grand Theft!

    How about 16 Grand Theft?
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    It is possible this thief knew what he was taking. You might be able to narrow down the possible destination by calling the the local KM to see if anyone queried about replacing their Creo.

    If he didn't know what it was he was taking, chalk it up to another moron thief. Go check out the pawn shops closest to your store.

    As for fiery controllers, the embedded (mounted on the back) controller, IC-408, is the best bang for the buck. It has no CD/DVD drive, but does support both PS and PCL drivers. It does not look like a computer, so would not likely be taken by a moron. The IC-303/305 (Pro tower) has a DVD tray, but does not support PCL drivers.

    In general, I haven't seen a whole lot of difference performance wise between the two fiery models. The lack of a DVD drive is of little consequence. The lack of a PCL driver can be a significant issue for some users.

    Primarily you need the interface card (20BF K102 00) and a basic PC, along with the fiery installation DVDs. I am not certain if you need the little display panel that is part of the controller case.

    Good luck beating the daylights out of the scumbag.....

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