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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    I do have to give Konica props for aesthetics - having one flat surface (top of the machine) from paper tray to the end of the finisher is a nice touch. And the gray is a nice change from the usual beige that copier companies used for years.

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    I like the black look too. Although I'm not a fan of the xerox phasers, I do like their beige and blue design...I'm partial to blue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlock View Post
    I do have to give Konica props for aesthetics - having one flat surface (top of the machine) from paper tray to the end of the finisher is a nice touch. And the gray is a nice change from the usual beige that copier companies used for years.

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    Konica Minolta machines are way prettier than they were before, I give you that.

    But, thanks to that, they're 10x freaking difficult to take the covers out to reach its insides. Damned beauty over function!
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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    I thought it would be cool to let some art students paint murials on a copier.

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    If anyone wants the real reasons behind the switch to dark covers it is due to using recycled plastics. If they leave them a lighter color you will see the swirl marks from the recycling process. Most manufactuers are going this route. Bow down to the all mighty dollar!

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    We have 3 Konica Minolta's in our shop and one Ricoh. We have a Bizhub Pro 1050, a Bizhub Pro 1200, and a Bizhub Press C8000 for KM and we have a Ricoh pro C900s. We love our Konica's and hate hate hate the Ricoh. We have had nothing but problems with the Ricoh ranging from poor quality, to jamming, to the fuser blade bursting into pieces. We also dont like that the Ricoh is an oil machine and the problems that has also caused. The ricoh is not as "user friendly" either, we are a high volume print shop and we have to constantly swap fusers in the Ricoh when switching between coated and uncoated stock. I will say the speed of the Ricoh is nice but that is it's only advantage. As far a print quality, its pretty good but doesnt even come close to the clearity and quality of our C8000. Overall we are unimpressed with the Ricoh and have it up for service at a minimum once a week, but most of the time we have it up 2-4 times a week. Thats our opinion on it....Konica Minolta all the way once our Ricoh contract is up.
    Last edited by P-Man; 11-14-2011 at 04:38 PM.

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG PAPA View Post
    If anyone wants the real reasons behind the switch to dark covers it is due to using recycled plastics. If they leave them a lighter color you will see the swirl marks from the recycling process. Most manufactuers are going this route. Bow down to the all mighty dollar!
    I have nothing against the colour. It's the cover arrangement that gets to me. In order to get to PCB X at the back of the machine, we need to take the front cover in order to take out the side top cover in order to take out the side bottom cover in order to take out the back cover. It's just silly!
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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    Yeah that is really stupid and annoying. Wouldn't it be super neat if we were in the future and invisible forcefield walls were invented. They could have the copier surrounded by an invisible forcefield on each side. So when you want to get to the back you just push a button and now you can instantly get to the back area...

    ...of course...

    ...then copier technicians will have to learn to fix invisible force fields...and what would happen if it turns on while your hand or head is in there...probably would vaporize ya.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwho View Post
    I have nothing against the colour. It's the cover arrangement that gets to me. In order to get to PCB X at the back of the machine, we need to take the front cover in order to take out the side top cover in order to take out the side bottom cover in order to take out the back cover. It's just silly!

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    ONE WORD CANON

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    Re: General question Ricoh vs Konica Minolta

    I have same level of experience on both. When it comes to color the KM machines are best. Software wise the the SAMBA support for the scanning on the ricoh machines is great you can brows for folder locations on the machine panel. Other than that both do the job. the best machine ever would be a MP6500 print engine combined with a B601 Body and fuser!

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