C224e/C284e/C364e/C454e/C545e cyan dev unit problems

[aparsons]

I can print in monochrome so the machine is still useful. I can get seals for the c224 etc from the People's Republic and I can get bags of toner, all for not very much money. The developer unit for the C220 is the DV311 and I cannot find seals specifically for this however looking at the copyrite compatibility table it looks as though the c224 seals will fit the C220. Any thoughts?
Also when I get my bag of developer how do I fill the developer unit? Sounds daft I know but do I empty the old developer out first or I just fill it right up? How much is enough - I don't want to overfill it?

This is not a commercial enterprise but the machine (when it works well) is extremely useful as I am the clerk of a small parish council, Church Knowle (pop 290) and the C220 is good at generating the paperwork involved. I have fewer and more peaceful warring factions in a tin-pot African dictatorship!

Thanks for all the help. I'll let you know how it works out.

Andrew

[Hansoon]

Andrew, which series you are talking about? BH-C-220/280/360 or BH-C-xx4e series as the name of the thread?

Hans

[Don N.]

AParsons-
As you saw, turning mag roller by hand may look like enough dv but machine speed will reveal some is missing so just add about 2 tablespoons of any color dv you can get. Black or other color will eventually be replaced, or you can run heavy magenta solid pages in svc, test mode, halftones, magenta to quickly purge it. Developer is actually carrier plus toner. The c220 carrier in the developer is the same as c224e and c258 series. Only the 4e and 8 series toners are smaller particle size so they fuse faster. That little difference in particle size is not noticeable in small qty and will be replaced with 4e or 8 toner if people do this in those machines, so only a large dv qty add or change in 4e/8 could cause poor fusing for the first 30/50 pages depending on how much c220 dv is used. I would not pour out your M dv, just add a few tbs and test.
Katun sells c220 dv in a bag cheap. Ive used it in all 3 series. The seal368 from Copylite fits all 3 series.
Unless I missed it, you still havent said the age of the drums or dv, so this is just a symptom you are patching if the drum or dv is old or worn. If the M dv was pulled out due to the seal leaking/dusting the drum charger, then its a good fix if you clean the drum charger & replace the seal.

[Zoran]

Adjust the desired toner concentration in the developer unit and then use my product to reset the developer.

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BIZHUB C364e drum developer reset - YouTube



M RESET C224


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Using:
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After installing compatible developers ,in the developer image unit, it is necessary to perform a reset of the developer image unit in order for the TCR sensor to remember the concentration of the toner the value triggers the toner supply.
2.
In the case of errors related to the concentration of toner - developer unit (C2551, C2553, C2555, C2557, C2411, C2412, C2413, C2414, C2552, C2554, C2556, C2558, C2559, C255A, C255B, C255C, C2561, C2562, C2563, C2564. .) and after the repair it is necessary to reset the TCR sensor.(If necessary, reduce or increase the concentration of toner in the developer from the service mode)
Compatible with:
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bizhub C224e/bizhub C284e/bizhub C364e/d-Color MF222 plus/d-Color MF282 plus/d-Color MF362 plus/ineo+ 224e/ineo+ 284e/ineo+ 364e
bizhub C454/bizhub C554/bizhub C454e/bizhub C554e/d-Color MF452 plus/d-Color MF552 plus/ineo+ 454/ineo+ 554/ineo+ 454e/ineo+ 554e
bizhub C227/bizhub C287/bizhub 367/CM2041/CM2101/D300/D301/D310/D311/ineo+ 227/ineo+ 287/ineo+ 367/d-Color MF 223/d-Color MF283
bizhub C258/bizhub C308/bizhub C368/bizhub C458/bizhub C558/bizhub C658 /d-Color MF254/d-Color MF304/d-Color MF364/d-Color MF454/d-Color MF554/d-Color MF654/MFX-C2590/MFX-C3090/MFX-C3690/MFX-C4590/MFX-C5590 /ineo+ 258/ineo+ 308/ineo+ 368/ineo+ 458/ineo+ 558/ineo+ 658
bizhub C250i/ bizhub C300i/ bizhub C360i/ineo+ 250i/ineo+ 300i/ineo+ 360i
bizhub C221/bizhub C221s/bizhub C281/ineo+ 221/ineo+ 221s/ineo+ 281
bizhub C3350i /bizhub C4050i /ineo+ 3350i /ineo+ 4050i
bizhub C3350/bizhub C3850/ bizhub C3850FS/d-Color MF3300/d-Color MF3800
bizhub C4000i/ bizhub C3300i /ineo+ 4000i/ineo+ 3300i
bizhub C3851/ bizhub C3851FS


bizhub 224e/bizhub 284e/bizhub 364e/ ineo 224e/ineo 284e/ineo 364e
bizhub 454e/bizhub 554e/ ineo 454e/ineo 554e
bizhub 654e/bizhub 754e/ ineo 654e/ineo 754e
bizhub 227/bizhub 287/bizhub 367/ ineo 227/ineo 287/ineo 367
bizhub 308e/ bizhub 368e/ bizhub 458e/ bizhub 558e/ bizhub 658e
bizhub 308/ bizhub 368/ bizhub 458/ bizhub 558

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Using:
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[Don N.]

AParsons-
Were you able to get a seal and add dv? Directly to the mag roller is fine, just hand rotate the rear gear upward, mag. roller will gobble up the dv. Insure there is no dv climbing out if the seal, and that you are holding the dv unit dead level respective to front & rear. From the amount missing in your test sample, youll probably need at least 6-8 tablespoons.
DO NOT RESET THE DRUM OR DV UNIT AS SOME MIGHT SUGGEST!!! That in it self could cause complete failure, calibrating to the old drum's charge properties & worn dv. You said your tcr levels are approx. 6.5% that is great. Adding any dv will not upset that concentration ratio. DO NOT RESET BY CHIP OR DEVICE!!!
I also want to stress that either the seal was dusting your drums charge grid, causing developer to get pulled out, or the drum is so old, charge has increased to unacceptable levels.
Do as I described and you will see immediate improvement. Clean the drum charger at minimum with canned air if you are not capable of disassembly (you could ruin the drum if your not experienced).

[tsbservice]

AParsons-
Were you able to get a seal and add dv? Directly to the mag roller is fine, just hand rotate the rear gear upward, mag. roller will gobble up the dv. Insure there is no dv climbing out if the seal, and that you are holding the dv unit dead level respective to front & rear. From the amount missing in your test sample, youll probably need at least 6-8 tablespoons.
DO NOT RESET THE DRUM OR DV UNIT AS SOME MIGHT SUGGEST!!! That in it self could cause complete failure, calibrating to the old drum's charge properties & worn dv. You said your tcr levels are approx. 6.5% that is great. Adding any dv will not upset that concentration ratio. DO NOT RESET BY CHIP OR DEVICE!!!
I also want to stress that either the seal was dusting your drums charge grid, causing developer to get pulled out, or the drum is so old, charge has increased to unacceptable levels.
Do as I described and you will see immediate improvement. Clean the drum charger at minimum with canned air if you are not capable of disassembly (you could ruin the drum if your not experienced).

He doesn't respond so maybe we can go ahead 😉

[Zoran]

AParsons-
Were you able to get a seal and add dv? Directly to the mag roller is fine, just hand rotate the rear gear upward, mag. roller will gobble up the dv. Insure there is no dv climbing out if the seal, and that you are holding the dv unit dead level respective to front & rear. From the amount missing in your test sample, youll probably need at least 6-8 tablespoons.
DO NOT RESET THE DRUM OR DV UNIT AS SOME MIGHT SUGGEST!!! That in it self could cause complete failure, calibrating to the old drum's charge properties & worn dv. You said your tcr levels are approx. 6.5% that is great. Adding any dv will not upset that concentration ratio. DO NOT RESET BY CHIP OR DEVICE!!!
I also want to stress that either the seal was dusting your drums charge grid, causing developer to get pulled out, or the drum is so old, charge has increased to unacceptable levels.
Do as I described and you will see immediate improvement. Clean the drum charger at minimum with canned air if you are not capable of disassembly (you could ruin the drum if your not experienced).

Dear friend, just as I managed to make the reseter that I mentioned, so I can draw you and the machine you are talking about, regardless of the likes and reputation you have.
When he adds 5-6 spoon of developer according to your recommendation, he may need a fork and a knife to scrape it off the paper.
To be noticed that you love restaurants, but you are far from service and successful repairs.
1. The entire amount of developer must be extracted from the unit.
2. it must be measured, sifted and topped up to the amount of 210 grams.
2 After that, check if the corona breaks through, clean it.
If there is doubt, replace the places with color units
3. Check the application of the developer on the magnetic roller, whether it is correct, i.e. identical compared to other units.
If necessary, adjust the magnetic roller blade to 0.45 mm.
4. Be sure to reset the developer unit so that it does not throw out errors related to toner concentration.
5. In the case of replenishment, I prefer to use even second-hand, sifted developers from production machines pr. C6000L, C8000 ,and with Chinese I have a bad experience like the one you mentioned.

[Don N.]

Dear friend, just as I managed to make the reseter that I mentioned, so I can draw you and the machine you are talking about, regardless of the likes and reputation you have.
When he adds 5-6 spoon of developer according to your recommendation, he may need a fork and a knife to scrape it off the paper.
To be noticed that you love restaurants, but you are far from service and successful repairs.
1. The entire amount of developer must be extracted from the unit.
2. it must be measured, sifted and topped up to the amount of 210 grams.
2 After that, check if the corona breaks through, clean it.
If there is doubt, replace the places with color units
3. Check the application of the developer on the magnetic roller, whether it is correct, i.e. identical compared to other units.
If necessary, adjust the magnetic roller blade to 0.45 mm.
4. Be sure to reset the developer unit so that it does not throw out errors related to toner concentration.
5. In the case of replenishment, I prefer to use even second-hand, sifted developers from production machines pr. C6000L, C8000 ,and with Chinese I have a bad experience like the one you mentioned.

🥃 I'll have what he's having! 😘

[Zoran]

🥃 I'll have what he's having! 😘

When you manage to unlock the CE password of any production machine like me, then I can take your knowledge into consideration.
This solution was offered only by me on this planet.

[aparsons]

Hi,
Yes I did tackle the problem and got a new developer unit from the People's Republic. By the time I had bought the developer (couldn't find any particularly cheap) the extra money for the complete new unit seemed worthwhile. Have fitted this, not particularly challenging, and the machine is a lot less pink as a result so I think that was the trouble. I want to run a lot of magenta pages through it to settle it in as the test page shows no magenta at all.

However I now have the dreaded paper jam message at position 1 where the machine will not feed paper from the paper drawer. I know this is a different thread and will tackle it and get back.

In short it does seem that it was the Magenta developer unit and I think that if I had developer sitting on my shelf then topping it up would probably have solved it. Now I have to address the paper feed problem.

Thanks for the help and will update the thread when I have a complete result. Andrew