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    taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    TA 4500i (olivetti 4500i brand) lines on image . They look like they are from drum . IF i make several copies lines appear at the first copies then image is ok.
    How can i fix it?
    Can i swap an other drum unit from TA 550i?

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Gab View Post
    TA 4500i (olivetti 4500i brand) lines on image . They look like they are from drum . IF i make several copies lines appear at the first copies then image is ok.
    How can i fix it?
    Can i swap an other drum unit from TA 550i?

    you mean the first copies are ok so you start leaving the lines? Obviously you have also tried to make tests or prints from a PC and the defect is the same, so if they are black lines it will be the black drum (like the 5501i) if vice versa they are lighter than the original probably it is the developer unit.

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    You most likely can not swap drums
    as manufacturing prevents exactly what your trying to do to protect dealers. RIDF chips or pin wiring different

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    You most likely can not swap drums
    as manufacturing prevents exactly what your trying to do to protect dealers. RIDF chips or pin wiring different
    You mean i can't swap drum units because they are diφferent brands?

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Gab View Post
    You mean i can't swap drum units because they are diφferent brands?
    Can i remove opc drum and blade d=from an other drum unit and replace the old opc drum and blade.
    Do i have to run any program.

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Yes you can swap around drum units, mainly for diagnostic purposes. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Yes you can swap around drum units, mainly for diagnostic purposes. =^..^=
    thanks for confirmation

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    You most likely can not swap drums
    as manufacturing prevents exactly what your trying to do to protect dealers. RIDF chips or pin wiring different
    blackcat says it is possible

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    I agree with black cat.

    DK units mostly same for all brands, if no toner drive or other toner related parts installed.
    e.g.:
    A4 systems/ 6th Generation + Polaris drum units are included mechanical protection, diff. toner drive, because of this you can`t swap between brands
    Near by all A3 systems don`t have any toner related parts inside and they are usefull for each brand.

    At Gaia range/ 4500i, you can`t use toner from other brand because of mechanical protection parts between brands + RFID technology, but you can use DK from 5500i after running ALL needed adjustment for mounting from new DK unit!

    By the way:
    It`s always "nice" to read descriptions like yours:

    "TA 4500i (olivetti 4500i brand) lines on image . They look like they are from drum . IF i make several copies lines appear at the first copies then image is ok.
    How can i fix it?"

    Which kind of lines?
    Horizontal or vertical lines?
    1 or more lines?
    Repititive lines?
    Line width?
    With or without margins?

    Every day technicians are asking me for help without these needed informations.
    They all receive my typical answer:
    "Sorry, but you didn`t ask the lord for help, you asked me!
    I am located far far away from you and don`t see this lines, dots or else."

    For better helping we need more detailed informations like samples, U000 reports and so on.

    Here we are talking about "old" 4500i.
    e.g.:
    missing data for
    U110?
    U127?
    U158?
    U251?
    U930?
    Sometimes lines are coming from transfer belt, because of faulty cleaning after running calibration....

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    Re: taskalfa 4500i drum swap

    Quote Originally Posted by KYO_OEM View Post
    I agree with black cat.

    DK units mostly same for all brands, if no toner drive or other toner related parts installed.
    e.g.:
    A4 systems/ 6th Generation + Polaris drum units are included mechanical protection, diff. toner drive, because of this you can`t swap between brands
    Near by all A3 systems don`t have any toner related parts inside and they are usefull for each brand.

    At Gaia range/ 4500i, you can`t use toner from other brand because of mechanical protection parts between brands + RFID technology, but you can use DK from 5500i after running ALL needed adjustment for mounting from new DK unit!

    By the way:
    It`s always "nice" to read descriptions like yours:

    "TA 4500i (olivetti 4500i brand) lines on image . They look like they are from drum . IF i make several copies lines appear at the first copies then image is ok.
    How can i fix it?"

    Which kind of lines?
    Horizontal or vertical lines?
    1 or more lines?
    Repititive lines?
    Line width?
    With or without margins?

    Every day technicians are asking me for help without these needed informations.
    They all receive my typical answer:
    "Sorry, but you didn`t ask the lord for help, you asked me!
    I am located far far away from you and don`t see this lines, dots or else."

    For better helping we need more detailed informations like samples, U000 reports and so on.

    Here we are talking about "old" 4500i.
    e.g.:
    missing data for
    U110?
    U127?
    U158?
    U251?
    U930?
    Sometimes lines are coming from transfer belt, because of faulty cleaning after running calibration....

    Finally i swaped the drum unit. It works but there is about 3 cm no print at the bottom , at the area that lines appeared. Also there are dark lines at the old drum. at

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