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    Having quality issues. I replaced all drums and developer units, tranfer unit and secondary roller, high voltage pwb, feed image pwb, drum dev relay bd and still the same after speaking with kyocera support. Background and banding in different colors. Swapped drums around and the background changes color. Stumped on this one. See attached help appreciated.
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    Re: 3252CI

    that drum seems to be bad, especially since the background followed with the unit. how did it all start?

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    Presuming it’s genuine toner I’d try HVT

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    Check to see that the drum cleaning units are not blocked up with waste toner. I suspect that the waste auger system is backed up, backing up into the drum cleaning units and primary transfer cleaning unit. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: 3252CI

    When you replaced the units drum, dv, transfer are all the counts for those unit zeroed


    Quote Originally Posted by T911 View Post
    Having quality issues. I replaced all drums and developer units, tranfer unit and secondary roller, high voltage pwb, feed image pwb, drum dev relay bd and still the same after speaking with kyocera support. Background and banding in different colors. Swapped drums around and the background changes color. Stumped on this one. See attached help appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Check to see that the drum cleaning units are not blocked up with waste toner. I suspect that the waste auger system is backed up, backing up into the drum cleaning units and primary transfer cleaning unit. =^..^=
    Yupp. Most of those defects are 95mm apart (drum circumference). Drum cleaning failure. Bad toner or clogged system.

    You said you replaced the drums, but was it with new drums because those look pitted.

    Look for above, along with toner dropping (front from dv bushing wear, rear from clogging).

    It's due for a PM by date and the firmware is about 4 revs old.

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    175k on color supplies. That's early for a complete PM.
    Growth is found only in adversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    175k on color supplies. That's early for a complete PM.
    By Date….PM kit warranty is by time or volume because both cause degradation. I get that nobody really takes it into account except the engineers who designed it.

    After 4-5 years in the field, hasn’t the customer essentially paid for it already?

    Time spent screwing around certainly paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrintWhisperer View Post
    By Date….PM kit warranty is by time or volume because both cause degradation. I get that nobody really takes it into account except the engineers who designed it.

    After 4-5 years in the field, hasn’t the customer essentially paid for it already?

    Time spent screwing around certainly paid for it.

    This would a fascinating topic. I suspect that most owners/managers don't want a tech replacing a drum/dv/ITB/fuser unless it's shows signs of wear. You raise a valid point. Personally, I haven't worked on these machines long enough to collect any real long term data.

    I rely on you guys for a lot of this information.
    Growth is found only in adversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    This would a fascinating topic. I suspect that most owners/managers don't want a tech replacing a drum/dv/ITB/fuser unless it's shows signs of wear.
    I believe what they want is for you to do what you were trained to do. Exercise your best judgement because they aren't technicians, that's why they hired you

    Most Dealers price a PM into their Service Agreement CPC (if they are savvy) and certainly expect you to perform the PM as prescribed because the manufacturer expects it of them.

    Back in my day () we had to do a PM twice a year no matter what and we cleaned the whole machine. We replaced parts so that they DO NOT FAIL in the future, we did not WAIT FOR THEM TO FAIL. (Preventive Maintenance vs Periodic Maintenance)

    Would you wait to change your oil until your compression drops and your rings show signs of wear? Would you run or work for a shop that did that to others? Especially if the customer had already paid for it?

    I think you know better

    Of course I was trained in the USMC so I'm a 'By-the-Book' guy.

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