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    Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    The shorter the time the better. On machines at home and in the office I set 5 minutes. It's about what the end-user will accept. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    The shorter the time the better. On machines at home and in the office I set 5 minutes. It's about what the end-user will accept. =^..^=
    My same sized Brother MFPs are set to 1 minute before go to sleep mode(by default). Same type teflon sleeve fuser I guess. They do last around 200k under that circumstances. Even on bigger A3 machines common sleep timer is 15min.
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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Don`t forget to take a look for Bulletin 2S0-0030 (J114)
    Item #17:
    The oil applied to the fuser sliding sheet might decrease after fuser overshoot repeatedly when the main unit is stopped at jam/service call error, and the fuser torque might increase to cause the fuser jam.

    (Measure when completing print)
    ・Aging time is changed by print volume (Max 20s)
     1-4 sheets: 0s  5-29 sheets: 5s *1  30-49sheets: 10s *1  
    50 sheets and more: 20s
    *1: Until the fuser belt temperature becomes 140 degrees C
    after a certain time (Max 20s) 
    ・Heater is turned off during the above aging
    ・If the next job comes in during aging, it is executed and after completing it, aging is reset based on the specification

    (Measure when the error is detected)
    ・The in-machine cooling fan is driven for 60s after detecting jam/servicecall error and stopped at the temperature of 180 degree C or less.

    New Fk unit together with FW upgrade will solve your problem.
    Also you can ask KDC for special warranty in case of broken FK-1150.

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    According to kyo tech, the latest firmware reduces the rotation time of the fuser, and also the length of time the fuser is at a high temp, I have rebuilt some of these fusers, with grey market belts and pads, the problem with them is the oil pad is poorly designed, and begins to stretch and gather, causing the fuser belt to get tight, causing fuser jams at about 40 K, if somebody could come up with a better quality oil pad, it would solve the problem. Has any one seen one ???

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Maybe it's just me, but Kyocera has always struggled with their fusers, very little ever make a full life.

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Quote Originally Posted by charge leak View Post
    According to kyo tech, the latest firmware reduces the rotation time of the fuser, and also the length of time the fuser is at a high temp, I have rebuilt some of these fusers, with grey market belts and pads, the problem with them is the oil pad is poorly designed, and begins to stretch and gather, causing the fuser belt to get tight, causing fuser jams at about 40 K, if somebody could come up with a better quality oil pad, it would solve the problem. Has any one seen one ???
    We've discussed re-coating the teflon sheet with some of that OIL-965 that comes with the Toshiba e Studio 4555C/4505C fuser rebuild kits. It's a very similar construction. The two fusers I disassembled were in the process of ripping the dry teflon sheet, exactly like the Toshibas do. We have not tried it yet.

    If anybody gives this a try I'll be interested in the results. =^..^=
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    If you are getting a grinding noise from the fuser before the error, check the plastic that holds the gear that turns the fuser. If the gear gets under any strain is cracks the plastic and the gear jumps across so it cannot turn the fuser. See images below, (After taking out the fuser) I jammed a bit of paper between the plastic and the metal to hold the split plastic closed and it seems to fix it.

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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Quote Originally Posted by Lync View Post
    If you are getting a grinding noise from the fuser before the error, check the plastic that holds the gear that turns the fuser. If the gear gets under any strain is cracks the plastic and the gear jumps across so it cannot turn the fuser. See images below, (After taking out the fuser) I jammed a bit of paper between the plastic and the metal to hold the split plastic closed and it seems to fix it.

    Ecosys P2040dn.jpg
    Ecosys P2040dn - FIX.jpg
    Quick, clean fix
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    Re: Frequent problem with Ecosys P2040dn/M2040dn

    Fuser's rated life never includes idle time.

    If you have long idle time and wonder why the fuser fail prematurely....

    Say the 300k rated fuser failed at 150k....most likely the other 100k worth of heat and rotation was wasted on idle... Or roasting chicken...
    An idling develper is not a healthy developer.

    A long idle time to low power fuser has a short life.

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