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    Re: Cheaters

    Canon at least used to sell one as as service tool.

    Its shaped evolved over the years to fit new models.

    I think it was made of aluminum, but could have been just about any alloy or compound.

    I must have had at least 10 of them stashed in various places. I managed to lose them all over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenB View Post
    Canon at least used to sell one as as service tool.

    Its shaped evolved over the years to fit new models.

    I think it was made of aluminum, but could have been just about any alloy or compound.

    I must have had at least 10 of them stashed in various places. I managed to lose them all over time.
    I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.

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    Reversed fat Tie Wrap. Hans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowatech View Post
    I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.
    I'll post a photo tomorrow of the one I have, but don't use (haven't seen a Canon in ages).
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    Re: Cheaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Iowatech View Post
    I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.
    I have a door cheat similar 'L' shape design with slots cut here and there for various makes and models.
    It was original an ooooldddd Toshiba door cheat. I modified it over the years for Canon, Ricoh ,Sharp, and Brother; and just recently Xerox.
    It's not always a perfect fit for every slot but it does the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    I have a door cheat similar 'L' shape design with slots cut here and there for various makes and models.
    It was original an ooooldddd Toshiba door cheat. I modified it over the years for Canon, Ricoh ,Sharp, and Brother; and just recently Xerox.
    It's not always a perfect fit for every slot but it does the job.
    good sir. If i may ask, could you post a pic of your device on your spare time. thks.

    someone mentioned paper. while that is the first thing we would all grab in a rush, i have had too many headaches with paper, that i will never use it again, unless in a desperate situation, which i think is very unlikely. cut, fit,trim and still fiddle,fiddle a leo o for it to stay.
    some machines you have to use two or three at a time and if paper jam ect. and you have to remove and set again on first insert to continue and a cheater is not working right, it can drive one nuts in the troubleshooting process. my take anyway.
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    Re: Cheaters

    Cheaters.jpg

    On the left is a Canon cheater (aluminum), the center is a hard resin cheater (origins unknown), and the right one looks like a home made cheater of aluminum.
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    Re: Cheaters

    Quote Originally Posted by ZOOTECH View Post
    I'll post a photo tomorrow of the one I have, but don't use (haven't seen a Canon in ages).
    I'll do that as well if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subaro View Post
    good sir. If i may ask, could you post a pic of your device on your spare time. thks.

    someone mentioned paper. while that is the first thing we would all grab in a rush, i have had too many headaches with paper, that i will never use it again, unless in a desperate situation, which i think is very unlikely. cut, fit,trim and still fiddle,fiddle a leo o for it to stay.
    some machines you have to use two or three at a time and if paper jam ect. and you have to remove and set again on first insert to continue and a cheater is not working right, it can drive one nuts in the troubleshooting process. my take anyway.
    Re : Photo.
    If you have a look at Zootech last post; I have an old Toshiba door cheat identical to the one in the center of the photo. Zootech has also filed a slot into the small tail section identical to what I've done; which allows it to be used in Canon machines. I also have slots filed into the right angle radius arc at different positions for other machines Ricoh, Brother etc. I use to have a Canon one (left side of photo) but lost it years ago.

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    Re: Cheaters

    Old but good thread. Personally I never had problem to fabricate door jig from paper sheet but kinda like the idea of using rubber/silicone hose.
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