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    Oh No Trump Toiletgate

    Remember our toilet scoop in Axios AM earlier this year? Maggie Haberman's forthcoming book about former President Trump will report that White House residence staff periodically found wads of paper clogging a toilet — and believed the former president, a notorious destroyer of Oval Office documents, was the flusher.

    Why it matters: Destroying records that should be preserved is potentially illegal.

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    Do you believe every allegation against Trump ?

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    Clinton-linked lawyer says Trump could be barred from re-election after FBI raid, cites US Code

    The FBI executed a search warrant of Trump's Mar-a-Lago property reportedly seeking classified documents he allegedly took from the White House


    Marc Elias, a top lawyer for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, said Monday that former President Trump could be disqualified from making another run at the White House in 2024 following the FBI raid of his Florida residence.

    FBI agents executed a search warrant of Trump's Mar-a-Lago property on Monday reportedly seeking classified documents he allegedly took from the White House when he left office in 2021.

    The search warrant was conducted in connection with the National Archives, according to a senior government official.

    This led Elias to cite U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2071 to highlight that Trump could be barred from seeking public office again, as the former president continues to drop hints that he will soon announce plans to seek a second term as commander-in-chief.

    "The media is missing the really, really big reason why the raid today is a potential blockbuster in American politics," Elias wrote in a tweet.

    Elias pointed to the passage of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2071 that states, "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

    However, legal challenges could make efforts to prevent Trump from running again under this code difficult, Elias noted in a follow-up tweet.

    "Yes, I recognize the legal challenge that application of this law to a president would garner (since qualifications are set in Constitution). But the idea that a candidate would have to litigate this is during a campaign is in my view a "blockbuster in American politics," he wrote.

    The Presidential Records Act of 1978 requires presidential administrations to preserve certain documents.

    According to the National Archives, the presidential records in 15 boxes taken from Mar-a-Lago earlier this year include documents classified over national security concerns.

    The agency has also called on the Department of Justice to probe whether the former president violated federal law in his handling of records.

    "Because [the National Archives and Records Administration] identified classified information in the boxes, NARA staff has been in communication with the Department of Justice," then-U.S. archivist David Ferriero wrote in a letter to Congress.

    Trump released a statement Monday announcing the FBI's raid and he slammed the federal government for its search of his property.

    ... as US Attorney General Merrick Garland has said multiple times "no one in the USA is above the law" and that includes ex Presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    Clinton-linked lawyer says Trump could be barred from re-election after FBI raid, cites US Code

    The FBI executed a search warrant of Trump's Mar-a-Lago property reportedly seeking classified documents he allegedly took from the White House


    Marc Elias, a top lawyer for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, said Monday that former President Trump could be disqualified from making another run at the White House in 2024 following the FBI raid of his Florida residence.

    FBI agents executed a search warrant of Trump's Mar-a-Lago property on Monday reportedly seeking classified documents he allegedly took from the White House when he left office in 2021.

    The search warrant was conducted in connection with the National Archives, according to a senior government official.

    This led Elias to cite U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2071 to highlight that Trump could be barred from seeking public office again, as the former president continues to drop hints that he will soon announce plans to seek a second term as commander-in-chief.

    "The media is missing the really, really big reason why the raid today is a potential blockbuster in American politics," Elias wrote in a tweet.

    Elias pointed to the passage of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2071 that states, "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

    However, legal challenges could make efforts to prevent Trump from running again under this code difficult, Elias noted in a follow-up tweet.

    "Yes, I recognize the legal challenge that application of this law to a president would garner (since qualifications are set in Constitution). But the idea that a candidate would have to litigate this is during a campaign is in my view a "blockbuster in American politics," he wrote.

    The Presidential Records Act of 1978 requires presidential administrations to preserve certain documents.

    According to the National Archives, the presidential records in 15 boxes taken from Mar-a-Lago earlier this year include documents classified over national security concerns.

    The agency has also called on the Department of Justice to probe whether the former president violated federal law in his handling of records.

    "Because [the National Archives and Records Administration] identified classified information in the boxes, NARA staff has been in communication with the Department of Justice," then-U.S. archivist David Ferriero wrote in a letter to Congress.

    Trump released a statement Monday announcing the FBI's raid and he slammed the federal government for its search of his property.

    ... as US Attorney General Merrick Garland has said multiple times "no one in the USA is above the law" and that includes ex Presidents.
    But not ex SOS's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    as US Attorney General Merrick Garland has said multiple times "no one in the USA is above the law" and that includes ex Presidents.
    You mean like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. And that also includes the entire Democrat party. Especially Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    You mean like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. And that also includes the entire Democrat party. Especially Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi
    But the FBI only Raided one

    Yep TRUMP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    But not ex SOS's.

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    ... what does that even mean? Save our ship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    ... what does that even mean? Save our ship?
    Clinton's title Secretary of State ...
    You don't even know the titles for our dignitaries.

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    Since trumpy is so chummy with the main dictators in the world, I wonder why he took those classified documents home in the first place. Maybe he was/is selling them to some foreign power. Something to think about.

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