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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    Are you kidding me? Look on page 21, that is where I got the quote. So, it seems that you misquoted yourself. Awesome!
    Are you kidding me? ..Again...look at page 16...and us the entire quote with context ...Seems you keep selectively using out of context quote....Awesome...

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post

    Are you kidding me? ..Again...look at page 16...and us the entire quote with context ...Seems you keep selectively using out of context quote....Awesome...
    As I posted earlier ...." In a recent interview, on a national radio program of a renowned geoscientist revealed that many climatologists believe hurricane intensity in recent years has increased due to cleaner air.....very little to do with "climate change"...So it seems stronger, deadlier storms are a byproduct of reduced car , industrial emissions and coal fired power plants...ironic ehh.."


    Above is the exact copy and paste from page 21, post number 207. Go have a look. Please!!! It is what I used the "reply with quote" on.

    And really, the climate change argument has nothing to do with clean or dirty air. It has to do with the amount of greenhouse gases CO2, methane etc that are emitted into the atmosphere that are warming the earth.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    While we may not think of wildfires being caused by Climate change, this summer's record breaking heat has caused extreme wildfires all along the Pacific coast and into Canada. The largest brush fire in California's history has claimed 15 lives and over 100 people are missing. These wild fires are possibly more deadly and damaging than the recent hurricanes.

    President Trump declares parts of California a disaster area making the state eligible for federal aid.

    While last winter a weak La Nina weather system provided badly needed drought relief to the Pacific Coast, scorching high temperatures, lingering heat waves and a lack of precipitation was the perfect recipe for drying out vegetation and starting large uncontrollable fires.

    According to climate models, by the end of this century, the western US is projected to warm by approx another 3.5 degrees Celsius. The relationship between temperature and fire is exponential.

    Some scientific data suggests that the western USA is 1.5 degrees Celsius (3 degrees F) higher because of human caused climate change.

    Has Climate Change Intensified 2017’s Western Wildfires? - The Atlantic
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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    I got one.

    Bottled water.

    How much water do you think is kept from going back to the natural cycle. That will do something for sure. Delayed water cycle can propagate and snowball big time.

    /start rant
    How long ago was the industrial revolution? When was the economy model introduced. For what purpose? To make a quick buck. For who, for those has zero concept of accountability.

    All for the sake of Convenience, maybe this idea isnt so good at all.


    Maybe the idea of "Business" isnt good at all. Rather, self sufficient was meant to be.

    Global Warming doesnt raise an alarm? of course not, they want to wait til there're no fish in the ocean.

    /end rant
    An idling develper is not a healthy developer.

    Scattered mind.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmaister View Post
    Rather, self sufficient was meant to be.

    What do you mean, "meant to be?"

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    What do you mean, "meant to be?"
    Well taking a stab and looking at the general tone of the earlier post it seems he is implying we need to go back to before the industrial revolution and possibly return to the "hunter gatherer" stage of human existence or subsistence farming where you have you own little plot where you grow your own food and care for your own animals for food and clothing from the hides. Probably around the Bronze age. Oh wait that would mean someone actually had to mine the ore/metal and smelt the metal from the ore. And then form the metal into tools. Ah isn't that the basis of "business?"

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Of all of the islands in the Caribbean perhaps none was devastated more than the island nation of Dominica.


    "All of the island’s agriculture was wiped out, and entire forests were flattened in Maria’s wake. Tourism, a driving force in its economy, will be scarce in the months to come.
    As one ferocious storm followed another this hurricane season, Prime Minister Skerrit told “Nightline” that his country was on the front line of climate change and that its very survival was in question. Its future could serve as a warning to the world on the destruction global warming could bring.
    “To deny climate change … is to deny a truth we have just lived,” he told the United Nations five days after the storm, telling the world body that island nations like Dominica are paying the heaviest price for a phenomenon they had little to do with.
    “No generation has seen more than one Category 5 hurricane. We’ve seen two in two weeks,” Dominica's Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit told Ian Pannell, ABC News Reporter. “So if you want to have information that … climate change is a real phenomenon,"

    'It's all gone': Hurricane-ravaged Dominica, on the front line of climate change, fighting to survive - ABC News


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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Do you ever bother to fact check the crap you quote?

    There were 2 in 2007. 4 in 2005. 2 in 1933. 2 in 1932.

    I'm so glad the light is finally shining on you people.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Do you ever bother to fact check the crap you quote?

    There were 2 in 2007. 4 in 2005. 2 in 1933. 2 in 1932.

    I'm so glad the light is finally shining on you people.
    Just a guess but no he doesn't. He finds something that fits his preconceived notions and quotes that. In actuality the scale was not developed until 1971. The rating was then applied to storms where records were kept before then. The actual hurricane hunter aircraft were not used before 1943. And only flew into storms after they were reported by ocean going vessels in order to confirm speed and direction of advance when they formed in the Atlantic. Then once the storms reached the outer islands shore based weather readings could be recorded and broadcast. There may have been other storms that reached force five but never reached land. Or reached land where the weather stations were few and may have been damaged before accurate recordings could be taken.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    ... but never before in recorded history has there been 2x Category 5 hurricanes to strike the same location in two weeks. The result is that the island nation of Dominica has been totally devastated even worse than Puerto Rico.


    ...........


    "Pretty soon there will be nine or 10 billion people [in the world]. We're going to have to change the way we do a lot of things. We're going to have to adapt. This is nothing new, you've got to be ready to change. Change is the only thing you can count on," Bill Nye tells the CBC's The Current's Anna Maria Tremonti.
    "Adaptation is the way of living things. Living things that don't adapt disappear."

    Bill Nye says the climate change deniers speaking out on influential media are leaving the world in worse shape than they found it.
    He suggests rationally addressing problems to create solutions.
    "When you respect facts, when you acknowledge what's really happening around you, you're quicker to adapt, quicker to make changes, quicker to do things in your own best interest," Nye says.
    "By ignoring facts, by not accepting the scientific method, by not acknowledging how much we know about nature, you're going to be at a real disadvantage as the world changes around you."
    'If you like to worry about things, you're living at a great time.'- Bill Nye
    Nye says that people who deny climate change exists tend to be 50 years of age and older.
    "Young people are very concerned about it and ready to make changes."
    But he suggests it's unclear there are enough young voters to get legislation, regulations, and infrastructure in place to address climate change "in a timely fashion."

    Bill Nye says climate change deniers need to 'respect facts' - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio


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