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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    As can be seen this year from both Hurricanes Florence and Michael, once in a 100 year destructive weather events are now happening every year in the USA.

    It is ironic that only two days after United Nations released their 2018 Climate report warning about the increasing dangers of climate change and specific dangers to North America that Hurricane Michael strikes the Florida panhandle with a force not seen in 100 years.

    Climate change report: What could happen to North America, per the UN

    North America faces a continuous assault going forward of more heat waves, flooding, intense hurricanes and massive economic damage that could equal 1.2% of the USA's gross domestic product for every 1 degree temperature increase.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    The Trump administration released a major multi Department US gov't climate document on a Friday afternoon before a national holiday that strongly discredits President Trump's arguments that climate change is not real and hurts the USA every day to the tune of billions of dollars.


    Report: Climate change will shrink U.S. economy, kill thousands - CNN Video


    You can stick your head in the sand and watch false Fox News which literally covered the report for less than 30 seconds.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    [26-11-18]
    Soaring high temperatures and wild fires in our locale at the moment...
    Record all time high temperatures in some locations, with more extremes on the way.

    The heat wave high temperatures will bring storms in their wake.

    On the opposite side of the globe to Australia, I'm guessing there would be complementary extreme low temperatures.
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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    [26-11-18]
    Soaring high temperatures and wild fires in our locale at the moment...
    Record all time high temperatures in some locations, with more extremes on the way.

    The heat wave high temperatures will bring storms in their wake.

    On the opposite side of the globe to Australia, I'm guessing there would be complementary extreme low temperatures.
    Opposite side of the Earth checking in - you are correct. Single digit temps here (F) overnight, but believe it or not the big snows to date have been south of here (13 inches of snow 40 miles south of here two days ago to be exact). There's only been about two inches of snow here so far.
    Then again it is winter, that's just what happens.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    It's amazing that anyone believes that 4/100th of 1% of an inert gas in the atmosphere is having a global catastrophic effect on temperatures. Co2 is NOT the problem!! Of course none of the climate scientists are going to admit that, because there's some "Fat Money" handed out by the government to study "Climate Change"!! All of their models and predictions have been 100% wrong....so to make up for it, they've started adjusting historical temperature readings downward, just to make their climate models work!! It's probably the biggest money grab in the history of man, since the advent of the Income Tax!!

    Now.... If you're talking about Sulfur Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide...I'm right there with you!! Those gases are nasty...along with ground level ozone. Those are TRUE pollutants! These are the components of smog!

    (Little known fact....there is no C02 in smog!!)

    Co2 is Plant Food!! We exhale it....plants take it in and give off oxygen! Elementary school science...everyone should remember photosynthesis!!

    Remember when cars didn't have Catalytic Converters?? They spewed out metric TONS of garbage into the atmosphere every year. I still remember seeing pictures on Los Angeles that looked like dusk when it was actually noon, just because of the smog in the air. The Catalytic Converter took all that nasty stuff and converted it into......

    ...Wait for it.....

    Co2!! <Insert Ominous Sounding Music Here>

    Now suddenly, because Spotted Owl Gore decides to shorten the name Carbon Dioxide to "Carbon" (makes it SOUND dirty...) we're all supposed to send our checks and money orders to his organization to buy "Carbon Credits" and assuage our guilt for being an industrialized society??

    I throw the flag, and call Bovine Scatology!!

    (Little known fact... Al Gore was a "C" student in science!!)

    EVERY... SINGLE.... PREDICTION.... made in Al's movie has not only NOT come true, but the opposite is happening. Ice caps back....thicker than ever. Polar bear population is up so much, the Inuit are asking for permission to kill them if they get too close to the villages. We just came off the longest hurricane "drought" of Cat 2 or higher in DECADES!!

    ....even their own SCIENCE works against them!! Remember the Mars Rovers?? Come to find out that when temperatures were rising on Earth, they were also rising by the same percentages on Mars! Same thing when temps were falling.

    A good documentary on some of the nonsense that's being presented as fact out there, and counter arguments you've probably not seen is here.... (External link... Caveat Emptor)

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    What the deniers leave out of their arguments is the reason that CO2 hasn't risen in the atmosphere a lot yet is the fact the the oceans are still able to absorb it. Once the oceans have absorbed their maximum amount of CO2, the level in the atmosphere will start rising quickly. That is when the real problems will start. That is when it becomes almost irreversible.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    This is real and it happens no matter if someone prefers to bury his head in the sand.
    Good thing is that the global climate changes will not greatly impact most of us till the end of our days.
    Bad thing is it's like snowball, once get speed will going faster and faster.
    We used to have 4 distinct seasons here when i was child, nowadays not anymore. Summer is rainy and winter there's a little snow. Same goes as well in many European countries. Yeah this is small part of the 🌎... sh.t happens, etc.
    But they(natural disasters) are bigger, faster, frequent, powerful and less forgiving everywhere.
    We still have chances to control this, only the clock is ticking, better not loose time...
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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Science v's science.
    Scientist of the day where told "NOT to let nuclear bombs off in the arctic regions."
    "In sixty years you will start to see the fruits of your folly.
    The magnetic field around the polar caps will start to absorb more of suns rays instead of deflecting them."
    Extreme weather events will become the normal.
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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    Science v's science.
    Scientist of the day where told "NOT to let nuclear bombs off in the arctic regions."
    "In sixty years you will start to see the fruits of your folly.
    The magnetic field around the polar caps will start to absorb more of suns rays inside of deflecting them."
    Extreme weather events will become the normal.
    I'm not sure if I understand. Are you suggesting they should detonate nuclear bombs in the arctic?

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    I'm not sure if I understand. Are you suggesting they should detonate nuclear bombs in the arctic?
    In the 1940-50's there were a number of nuclear test done in and around the polar regions.
    It has been approximately 70 years since the those nuclear tests were done.
    Todate and over the 70 year period there have been approximately 2000 nuclear detonations around the entire globe.

    Re. Normalized weather.
    The weather extremes of today are becoming our normal weather patterns.
    The next generation of children will see no such thing as climate change as the extreme weather patterns will be normal to them.

    Man made smog and chemical pollution is just a side issue to extreme weather patterns.
    Man still requires a concerted effort to clean up the planet. That effort requires releasing the alternative energy systems and converting coal, internal combustion, over to electrical or hydrogen power units.

    Man made global pollution is real....
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