Do you trust the media?

**SalesServiceGuy** · 04-22-2020

HBO's John Oliver dedicated his entire 21-minute show on Sunday night to a deep dive into false information being peddled by Fox News and other conservative media outlets about the coronavirus, and the impacts those falsehoods are having on President Donald Trump and his decision-making.

John Oliver described Fox News' coronavirus coverage:

"They only pretend to believe these things on television for money."

The point Oliver was making was that even as many Fox News anchors were pushing the idea that coronavirus was less virulent than the flu and that it was the product of a hyper-partisan media trying to "get" Trump, the company was warning its employees to stay at home and "reducing the staff footprint at our headquarters in New York."

Why the contrast between what their anchors were pushing and the internal guidance being given to staff?

Because, as Oliver rightly notes, Fox News is in the business of selling a certain kind of news to its largely conservative (and very large) viewer base. And that "news" is generally speaking, centered around the idea that the mainstream media is in cahoots with Democrats to screw, frighten and otherwise mistreat the average Joe and Jane out there.

Or, as Oliver put it: "Many in conservative media have found it easy to fold this virus into narratives that they have been carefully building up for decades."

Fox News played the coronavirus story as they play virtually every other story -- as an indictment of the media and its biases.

The truth here is that Fox News knows exactly what it's doing. It has created a brand that revolves around its viewers' distrust in societal pillars like government, the education system and, yes, the media. Every story -- and I mean every story -- is funneled through that lens.

The most noxious part of all of this is that Fox News is covering the story this way not because it agrees with with known facts or because they believe it's the "real" narrative but rather because they know that covering the coronavirus pandemic this way means more viewers -- and more money to sell ads.

Fox News has spent years conditioning their regular viewers to believe that anything "the media" -- or any other establishment institution (other than them), of course -- must not be telling the whole truth about anything. And that the reason the establishment isn't telling the truth is because the truth is somehow bad for them.

It's an incredibly vicious cycle -- and has been for a long time. But it's never been as clear as it is right now.

**FrohnB** · 05-01-2020

Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy

HBO's John Oliver dedicated his entire 21-minute show on Sunday night to a deep dive into false information being peddled by Fox News and other conservative media outlets about the coronavirus, and the impacts those falsehoods are having on President Donald Trump and his decision-making.

John Oliver described Fox News' coronavirus coverage:

"They only pretend to believe these things on television for money."

The point Oliver was making was that even as many Fox News anchors were pushing the idea that coronavirus was less virulent than the flu and that it was the product of a hyper-partisan media trying to "get" Trump, the company was warning its employees to stay at home and "reducing the staff footprint at our headquarters in New York."

Why the contrast between what their anchors were pushing and the internal guidance being given to staff?

Because, as Oliver rightly notes, Fox News is in the business of selling a certain kind of news to its largely conservative (and very large) viewer base. And that "news" is generally speaking, centered around the idea that the mainstream media is in cahoots with Democrats to screw, frighten and otherwise mistreat the average Joe and Jane out there.

Or, as Oliver put it: "Many in conservative media have found it easy to fold this virus into narratives that they have been carefully building up for decades."

Fox News played the coronavirus story as they play virtually every other story -- as an indictment of the media and its biases.

The truth here is that Fox News knows exactly what it's doing. It has created a brand that revolves around its viewers' distrust in societal pillars like government, the education system and, yes, the media. Every story -- and I mean every story -- is funneled through that lens.

The most noxious part of all of this is that Fox News is covering the story this way not because it agrees with with known facts or because they believe it's the "real" narrative but rather because they know that covering the coronavirus pandemic this way means more viewers -- and more money to sell ads.

Fox News has spent years conditioning their regular viewers to believe that anything "the media" -- or any other establishment institution (other than them), of course -- must not be telling the whole truth about anything. And that the reason the establishment isn't telling the truth is because the truth is somehow bad for them.

It's an incredibly vicious cycle -- and has been for a long time. But it's never been as clear as it is right now.

Exact same things can be said about CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC!
Fox News isn't the only "guilty party" in media that "panders to it's base".
Other networks and publications have been consistently called out for falsehoods lately, and only SOME "correct their errors".
It's always been a battle between conservative media and liberal media. At least it has been since I've been on this Earth.

Hard to believe either side of the "news" these days. Mostly Opinion and "Analysis" anymore, not Straight News.

**Phil B.** · 05-01-2020

Originally Posted by FrohnB

Exact same things can be said about CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC!
Fox News isn't the only "guilty party" in media that "panders to it's base".
Other networks and publications have been consistently called out for falsehoods lately, and only SOME "correct their errors".
It's always been a battle between conservative media and liberal media. At least it has been since I've been on this Earth.

Hard to believe either side of the "news" these days. Mostly Opinion and "Analysis" anymore, not Straight News.

That's why I don't rely just on MSM ( yes Faux included ) for information.

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**FrohnB** · 05-05-2020

NBC News Chief Out; Reports: NY Attorney General Investigating Network | The Daily Wire

A shakeup at NBC News that includes the replacement of its longtime chairman, Andy Lack, is coinciding with an investigation into the network by New York’s attorney general, according to a former NBC producer who witnessed firsthand an alleged “cover up” scandal at the network.

As detailed by the Post, since Lack returned to NBC in 2015, “his division has been riddled with controversy,” including the Brian Williams “embellished” Iraq war story and the network’s much-criticized handling of Megyn Kelly’s contract. But the worst scandals involved sexual misconduct allegations against Matt Lauer in 2017 and the alleged burying of the Weinstein story.

**skynet** · 05-07-2020

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**FrohnB** · 05-08-2020

Fuck the Media! Especially the liberal media! One thing I've done during this whole covid thing, is watch WAAYY less T.V./ News. Much less stressed because of it.

The reason i say fuck the media (Especially CNN), is for issues like this:
CNN Had a total of 705 different stories/ reports/ opinions of the Brett Kavanaugh/ Ballsy Ford episode. ALL of them slamming Brett and praising Christine and her "courageousness".
As of today there are maybe a dozen articles from CNN (mostly opinion pieces) about the Biden/ Reade allegations, and ALL of them essentially say, "We don't believe Ms. Reade." or "Tara's Thin allegations against a Potential President", or "You can't leave out Ms. Reade's past", or "Ms. Reade's complaint 'if it even exists at all' against the presumptive democrat nominee".
Ms. Reade and her lawyers had to actually approach CNN to get them to say anything about the allegations, and now that they're saying something, it's all to Prop up Biden and try to discredit her.
WTF!? Fuck CNN.

Liberal Media will do Anything to get the opportunity to choke on the cocks of their Democrat overlords.

**copier addict** · 05-08-2020

Originally Posted by FrohnB

Fuck the Media! Especially the liberal media! One thing I've done during this whole covid thing, is watch WAAYY less T.V./ News. Much less stressed because of it.

The reason i say fuck the media (Especially CNN), is for issues like this:
CNN Had a total of 705 different stories/ reports/ opinions of the Brett Kavanaugh/ Ballsy Ford episode. ALL of them slamming Brett and praising Christine and her "courageousness".
As of today there are maybe a dozen articles from CNN (mostly opinion pieces) about the Biden/ Reade allegations, and ALL of them essentially say, "We don't believe Ms. Reade." or "Tara's Thin allegations against a Potential President", or "You can't leave out Ms. Reade's past", or "Ms. Reade's complaint 'if it even exists at all' against the presumptive democrat nominee".
Ms. Reade and her lawyers had to actually approach CNN to get them to say anything about the allegations, and now that they're saying something, it's all to Prop up Biden and try to discredit her.
WTF!? Fuck CNN.

Liberal Media will do Anything to get the opportunity to choke on the cocks of their Democrat overlords.

Again, ignoring the fact the the right wing media downplayed the Kavanagh sexual assault accusation from Balisey Ford.
Why are you trying to imply that one "news" source is any more truthful than another?

**FrohnB** · 05-08-2020

Originally Posted by copier addict

Again, ignoring the fact the the right wing media downplayed the Kavanagh sexual assault accusation from Balisey Ford.
Why are you trying to imply that one "news" source is any more truthful than another?

Ballsy’s allegation was completely fabricated. No evidence, no witnesses, forgetful of where/ how/ when/ who and an admitted lie.
Tara’s allegation is backed up by witness accounts, recordings, court transcripts, and very good memory of where/ when/ how/ who.