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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    Neither Dominion Voting Machines Inc nor Smartmatic software share your opinion that silly words do not matter.

    They are suing in federal court numerous people who defamed their company for $ billions.

    That's irrelevant to the discussion. You need to educate yourself on free speech in America. Let's start here: Larry Flint owned Hustler magazine and on the front cover he published a picture of a famous preacher having sex with his mother. Offensive? You betcha. But still protected by free speech. Liberals have changed a lot since then. Now they want to cancel everything.



    Flashback: Hustler Magazine Scores First Amendment Victory Against Jerry Falwell

    In the 1980s, few figures loomed larger – or exerted greater influence – on the national stage than televangelist Jerry Falwell. Under Falwell’s stewardship, the Moral Majority political organization counterpunched the previous decade’s progressive strides, mobilizing various evangelical and rightwing Christian groups into a potent, unified conservative political force.
    The Moral Majority’s agenda included opposition to homosexuality, abortion and the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have guaranteed equal rights for all citizens regardless of sex. Advocating for “traditional” family values, Falwell and his powerful organization are credited with delivering the crucial white, evangelical vote to Ronald Reagan during the 1980 presidential election.
    Of course, that put him in the crosshairs of progressives. In its November 1983 issue, Hustler magazine published a satirical ad focused on Falwell. The piece was modeled on Campari’s popular advertising campaign, in which celebrities recalled their “first time” drinking the brand, a double-entrendre.





    In the parody, a dignified headshot of Falwell complements a bottle of the imported aperitif, with a transcript of the supposed exchange written in-between. Asked by the interviewer about his “first time,” Falwell responds: “I never really expected to make it with Mom, but then after she showed all the other guys in town such a good time, I thought ‘What the hell!'” He then recounts a Campari-fueled sexual experience with his mother (and a goat) in an outhouse.
    The ad concludes with Falwell highlighting his preference for Campari: “I always get sloshed before I go out to the pulpit. You don’t think I could lay down all that bullshit sober, do you?” (In small print at the bottom of the page, the magazine wrote, ”Ad parody – not to be taken seriously.”)
    The fake interview was politically barbed, to be sure, not to mention crude. But it was also an oddly personal moment and a focal point in the ongoing culture wars. Eventually it would set a key precedent for freedom of speech.
    For years, Falwell – who exercised his significant political capital championing conservative causes and bemoaning the porn industry – consistently singled out publications like Hustler, and its owner Larry Flynt, as corrupting players in American life. Flynt, in particular, typified “sleaze merchantry.”
    To Flynt, however, Falwell was a hypocrite whose rhetoric caused outsized harm. Hustler (dubbed “the only honest publication out there” by its owner) began needling Falwell, publishing the advertisement featuring the Baptist preacher’s deceased mother. Falwell sued for libel, invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress, demanding $45 million in damages, approximately $100 million by today’s standards.
    Representing two wildly different points of view, the men’s feud punctuated cultural and religious backlash in the Eighties, as well as an ongoing debate about American values. In some ways, Flynt and Falwell’s backgrounds were actually not dissimilar. While Falwell was raised in Virginia, Flynt grew up in eastern Kentucky. Before joining the Navy, Flynt dabbled as a bootlegger; so had Falwell’s father. By the early 1980s, however, the two men had cut distinct and entirely opposite public profiles on their way to enormous self-made success. Whereas Falwell counted top national political leaders as allies and friends, Flynt was counseled by Ruth Carter Stapleton, sister to President Jimmy Carter, during his brief conversion to Christianity.



























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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    Anything Goes does not include, as per CTN

    "Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts."

    You continuously post rude comments. I have once again reported you to the Administrator.
    That is not any of the CTN actual rules. It is the instructions that you only see after you click the Report icon.

    This thread is located in Rants,Raves, and Everything Else. The specific rules for Rants,Raves, and Everything Else are found right below the title Rants,Raves, and Everything Else in the Non-Technical Forums section of the Forum page. They are and I quote "This is the place to bitch, moan, or make a statement. Anything goes!" So in reporting you are in violation of that rule. You in effect reported on yourself. I advise that you read, learn and remember any and all specific rules as well as the General Rules. https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/misc.php?do=vsarules

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    That's irrelevant to the discussion. You need to educate yourself on free speech in America. Let's start here: Larry Flint owned Hustler magazine and on the front cover he published a picture of a famous preacher having sex with his mother. Offensive? You betcha. But still protected by free speech. Liberals have changed a lot since then. Now they want to cancel everything.



    Flashback: Hustler Magazine Scores First Amendment Victory Against Jerry Falwell

    In the 1980s, few figures loomed larger – or exerted greater influence – on the national stage than televangelist Jerry Falwell. Under Falwell’s stewardship, the Moral Majority political organization counterpunched the previous decade’s progressive strides, mobilizing various evangelical and rightwing Christian groups into a potent, unified conservative political force.
    The Moral Majority’s agenda included opposition to homosexuality, abortion and the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have guaranteed equal rights for all citizens regardless of sex. Advocating for “traditional” family values, Falwell and his powerful organization are credited with delivering the crucial white, evangelical vote to Ronald Reagan during the 1980 presidential election.
    Of course, that put him in the crosshairs of progressives. In its November 1983 issue, Hustler magazine published a satirical ad focused on Falwell. The piece was modeled on Campari’s popular advertising campaign, in which celebrities recalled their “first time” drinking the brand, a double-entrendre.





    In the parody, a dignified headshot of Falwell complements a bottle of the imported aperitif, with a transcript of the supposed exchange written in-between. Asked by the interviewer about his “first time,” Falwell responds: “I never really expected to make it with Mom, but then after she showed all the other guys in town such a good time, I thought ‘What the hell!'” He then recounts a Campari-fueled sexual experience with his mother (and a goat) in an outhouse.
    The ad concludes with Falwell highlighting his preference for Campari: “I always get sloshed before I go out to the pulpit. You don’t think I could lay down all that bullshit sober, do you?” (In small print at the bottom of the page, the magazine wrote, ”Ad parody – not to be taken seriously.”)
    The fake interview was politically barbed, to be sure, not to mention crude. But it was also an oddly personal moment and a focal point in the ongoing culture wars. Eventually it would set a key precedent for freedom of speech.
    For years, Falwell – who exercised his significant political capital championing conservative causes and bemoaning the porn industry – consistently singled out publications like Hustler, and its owner Larry Flynt, as corrupting players in American life. Flynt, in particular, typified “sleaze merchantry.”
    To Flynt, however, Falwell was a hypocrite whose rhetoric caused outsized harm. Hustler (dubbed “the only honest publication out there” by its owner) began needling Falwell, publishing the advertisement featuring the Baptist preacher’s deceased mother. Falwell sued for libel, invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress, demanding $45 million in damages, approximately $100 million by today’s standards.
    Representing two wildly different points of view, the men’s feud punctuated cultural and religious backlash in the Eighties, as well as an ongoing debate about American values. In some ways, Flynt and Falwell’s backgrounds were actually not dissimilar. While Falwell was raised in Virginia, Flynt grew up in eastern Kentucky. Before joining the Navy, Flynt dabbled as a bootlegger; so had Falwell’s father. By the early 1980s, however, the two men had cut distinct and entirely opposite public profiles on their way to enormous self-made success. Whereas Falwell counted top national political leaders as allies and friends, Flynt was counseled by Ruth Carter Stapleton, sister to President Jimmy Carter, during his brief conversion to Christianity.

























    I remember that issue of Hustler.... sick

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    That is not any of the CTN actual rules. It is the instructions that you only see after you click the Report icon.

    This thread is located in Rants,Raves, and Everything Else. The specific rules for Rants,Raves, and Everything Else are found right below the title Rants,Raves, and Everything Else in the Non-Technical Forums section of the Forum page. They are and I quote "This is the place to bitch, moan, or make a statement. Anything goes!" So in reporting you are in violation of that rule. You in effect reported on yourself. I advise that you read, learn and remember any and all specific rules as well as the General Rules. https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/misc.php?do=vsarules
    Thanks Slim,
    Even tho I didn't copy the ACTUAL CTN phrasing.. I do believe I also nailed it.

    ANYTHING GOES.
    And like I also stated WHEN/IF Admin does look into the complaint he will dismiss it as political/belief differences and it is out of the forum rules purview.

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    I remember that issue of Hustler.... sick

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

    That case went all the way to the supreme court and Larry Flint won. Ironically, it used to be liberals that were big proponents of free speech. Not anymore. Now they want to control what we say. Liberals have created safe spaces in our schools. Anyone who steps out of line will be cancelled by an angry liberal mob. In many cases liberals will show up at the person's house or track them down on the street. The USA is becoming a scary place to live in. Even liberal comedians are fed up with it.

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    Thanks Slim,
    Even tho I didn't copy the ACTUAL CTN phrasing.. I do believe I also nailed it.

    ANYTHING GOES.
    And like I also stated WHEN/IF Admin does look into the complaint he will dismiss it as political/belief differences and it is out of the forum rules purview.

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
    ... you can try and whitewash the vile and rude words you use on this website on a continuous basis. They have nothing to do with political/ belief differences. You do not know how the CTN administrator will react.

    It is a very safe bet that there are more complaints against Phil B than all other members combined.

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    That case went all the way to the supreme court and Larry Flint won. Ironically, it used to be liberals that were big proponents of free speech. Not anymore. Now they want to control what we say. Liberals have created safe spaces in our schools. Anyone who steps out of line will be cancelled by an angry liberal mob. In many cases liberals will show up at the person's house or track them down on the street. The USA is becoming a scary place to live in. Even liberal comedians are fed up with it.
    Kinda like the big angry violent mob of trumpers that attacked Congress and attempted to cancel the results of this election? You know, the mob that was going to kidnap and maybe kill politicians.

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    Kinda like the big angry violent mob of trumpers that attacked Congress and attempted to cancel the results of this election? You know, the mob that was going to kidnap and maybe kill politicians.

    Where was your concern when BLM & Antifa were attacking innocent folks all across the USA? Why are you only concerned about elite politicians when they come under attack?


    The same politicians were delighted when BLM and Antifa were attacking us. They refused to help us. Then even paid to get the rioters out of jail.


    You know how much I care about them getting attacked in the Capital Building? About as much as they cared about us.

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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Where was your concern when BLM & Antifa were attacking innocent folks all across the USA? Why are you only concerned about elite politicians when they come under attack?


    The same politicians were delighted when BLM and Antifa were attacking us. They refused to help us. Then even paid to get the rioters out of jail.


    You know how much I care about them getting attacked in the Capital Building? About as much as they cared about us.
    Us Who is Us????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Us Who is Us????????????


    "Us" is the father who worked his whole life to open up a store only to watch it get burned to the ground by BLM. "Us" is the retired black policeman that died at the hands of the rioters trying to protect his friend's pawn shop. "Us" is all the faceless people across the country whose live were destroyed by BLM & Antifa.


    Us is all the folks that you don't give a fuck about.

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