Let the truth be known

[skynet]

Your grasp on the trump presidency is quite enlightened.
I'm not used to such clarity from you.

Phil's post was not about Trump it also applies to global politics, in general, the media and techs stranglehold over free speech remember Parler?, my attitude is if you don't like free speech you should not look at it.

[Phil B.]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it donny boy who cried "fake news" every time he was caught lying? It happened quite a lot, so you must remember that. It was his little way of attempting to censor the free speech of the media.

no it was trump that called CNN et al fake news when THE MEDIA didn't report the facts...

like they said Spygate was all a myth... but then it turns out Obama HAD been spying on his campaign AND when he took office.

LIES do not constitute TRUTH in media..

he pointed out how CNN told lies about Nick Sandmann... and they got sued and LOST in court.

he said that the Russians were trying to help Killary win the election and it was proven AFTER that he was telling the truth.

he said when they were pushing the dossier that the "peeing prostitutes" was Fake news... guess what IT was all fabricated by Steele who was paid by Killary to write the bullshit dossier

55 times the media was wrong about Donald Trump. | CaliConservative.com

Many Times Trump's Crazy Statements Turned Out to Be Right |
Hennessy's View

Media Mistakes in the Trump Era: The Definitive List | Sharyl Attkisson

[copier addict]

Phil's post was not about Trump it also applies to global politics, in general, the media and techs stranglehold over free speech remember Parler?, my attitude is if you don't like free speech you should not look at it.

I love free speech. I just hate it when people use the "free speech" argument to spew hate.

[copier addict]

no it was trump that called CNN et al fake news when THE MEDIA didn't report the facts...

like they said Spygate was all a myth... but then it turns out Obama HAD been spying on his campaign AND when he took office.

LIES do not constitute TRUTH in media..

he pointed out how CNN told lies about Nick Sandmann... and they got sued and LOST in court.

he said that the Russians were trying to help Killary win the election and it was proven AFTER that he was telling the truth.

he said when they were pushing the dossier that the "peeing prostitutes" was Fake news... guess what IT was all fabricated by Steele who was paid by Killary to write the bullshit dossier

55 times the media was wrong about Donald Trump. | CaliConservative.com

Many Times Trump's Crazy Statements Turned Out to Be Right |
Hennessy's View

Media Mistakes in the Trump Era: The Definitive List | Sharyl Attkisson

You can say it a thousand times that the Russians weren't trying to help trump get elected, it still won't be true. They knew he would be extremely easy to manipulate. And it proved to be true.
He carried water for putin for four years

[skynet]

I love free speech. I just hate it when people use the "free speech" argument to spew hate.

In England, February 2020 a previous visit by British police to a man who was told to ''check your thinking'' and accused of posting "transphobic" tweets was found to be unlawful by the High Court. The court determined the police force's actions were a "disproportionate interference" with his right to freedom of expression.

So given that it's clear you don't support free speech, as you cannot have free speech with exceptions.

[copier addict]

In England, February 2020 a previous visit by British police to a man who was told to ''check your thinking'' and accused of posting "transphobic" tweets was found to be unlawful by the High Court. The court determined the police force's actions were a "disproportionate interference" with his right to freedom of expression.

So given that it's clear you don't support free speech, as you cannot have free speech with exceptions.

There are always exceptions to freedom of speech.

What is the law on free speech?
Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. But the law states that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society”.

Those restrictions may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary”.

[skynet]

There are always exceptions to freedom of speech.

I knew I was getting into muddy waters when I posted that, there of course has to be limits.
But here you imply that media platforms such as Parler spread hate, and hate these days just seems to be anything the MSM don't agree with.

Phil's post was not about Trump it also applies to global politics, in general, the media and techs stranglehold over free speech remember Parler?, my attitude is if you don't like free speech you should not look at it.

I love free speech. I just hate it when people use the "free speech" argument to spew hate.

[copier addict]

I knew I was getting into muddy waters when I posted that, there of course has to be limits.
But here you imply that media platforms such as Parler spread hate, and hate these days just seems to be anything the MSM don't agree with.

Parler is neither good nor bad. It is just a platform.
It is the people who spread the hate.

[slimslob]

There are always exceptions to freedom of speech.

Maybe in Canada, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution allows for no exceptions.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.

[bsm2]

Maybe in Canada, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution allows for no exceptions.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.

Your a very poor student of the Constitution YOUR right to free speech has resrictions therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling,