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    MSNBC And CNN Admit: We Need To Be ‘More Fair’ To ‘Donald Trump And The Republicans’

    MSNBC and CNN had a rare network crossover on Thursday morning — and made an even less common commitment to “do a better job” of covering allegations against “Donald Trump and the Republicans” by engaging in journalistic skepticism.

    MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” closed the 7 o’clock hour of its May 20 episode by interviewing CNN host Jake Tapper, who is promoting his new novel, The Devil May Dance.

    Host Joe Scarborough and Tapper both agreed that their two networks have to be “more fair to candidates” of both parties, particularly when covering allegations against “Donald Trump and the Republicans.”
    “Final question,” Scarborough announced. “We’re looking back … over the last five years” at “some of the stories we followed that ended up not being 100% accurate.”
    Five years would include the 2016 presidential campaign and the entire Trump presidency.

    “How do we do a better job?” Scarborough asked Tapper. “How do we be more fair to candidates, whether we’re talking about somebody like Hillary Clinton, where we’re getting leaked information from intel communities that may not be accurate, or Donald Trump and Republicans?”
    Tapper said that networks had reported stories without sufficient “context” and clarity.
    “Every time, you have to remind people: People are innocent until proven guilty, and a leak is not an indictment, an indictment is not a conviction,” Tapper said.

    Reporters have a duty to “present as many caveats as possible” when covering seemingly scandalous accusations of wrongdoing, Tapper added. “And I think you’re right: There are a lot of us in the media — and I certainly don’t exempt myself — who should have or could have done a better job adding those caveats, making sure the people understood everything going on.”
    “I think the more we can provide that context — you know, ‘Some intelligence believe this is true, others do not’ — the better our viewers will be, as long as we present as many caveats as possible,” he said.
    He complimented Scarborough for his newfound commitment to objectivity and nuance.

    “I see you trying to do a better job with that,” Tapper said. “I am certainly trying to do a better job with that, to make people understand that sometimes we’re doing the best we can with a lot of conflicting information. And we’re going to bring it all to you, and you can ultimately decide what you believe.”
    That last line echoed Fox News’ now-retired slogan: “We report. You decide.”
    Scarborough agreed that journalists must engage in greater due diligence than just regurgitating stories reported by other media.
    “Yeah, it’s so important we don’t do what I think a lot of us have done in the past … We read something in The [New York] Times or The Wall Street Journal, or The Washington Post, or Financial Times; they write it, and we report it,” he said. “We need to slow down” before jumping to conclusions.
    “I think you’re right,” he told Tapper. “I think that’s the texture we need to bring to these stories.”
    “And for God’s sake, especially when we’re talking about whether people are guilty of a crime or not, it is way past time for us … to remind people that everybody’s innocent until proven guilty,” Scarborough said.
    “And it’s not just against Donald Trump,” he added. “You can go back to Hillary Clinton and the leaks coming out of the FBI for a year, year-and-a-half during her campaign.”
    “These are just leaks from intel operations,” he concluded.
    Both hosts specifically said that American journalists must be more skeptical of leaks coming from members of the intelligence community. They singled out the largely discredited claim that the Russian government paid foreign jihadists a bounty for killing U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan.
    “There’s been a lot of criticism of the media writ large following stories that the intel community leaks out,” Scarborough said. “Like, for instance, bounties, Russian bounties on the heads of American troops, which now the Biden administration is casting doubt on.”
    The New York Times broke the story last summer, implying that President Donald Trump had been slow to respond and feeding the narrative that Trump is unduly soft towards Russia. Then-candidate Joe Biden called Trump’s alleged inaction “betrayal of the most sacred duty we bear as a nation.” Although multiple government agencies questioned the story over the ensuing months of the campaign, only after Biden’s inauguration did intelligence agents report they had “low-to-moderate” belief in the authenticity of the Russian bounties story.
    Tapper said the bounties story is “a great example” of the media getting the conclusions wrong.
    What’s behind this sudden affirmation of standard journalistic practice? Have these two networks learned something from the embarrassment of the Russiagate fiasco?
    Unfortunately, there are reasons to remain skeptical of their skepticism.
    First, the timing conveniently coincides with the beginning of a Democratic administration, which should be subject to greater scrutiny — including ongoing allegations that President Biden received kickbacks from foreign business deals arranged in the name of his son Hunter Biden, or investigations of the president’s brother James Biden, or dark and amorphous questions about how much authority the 78-year-old president has over the policies of his own administration.
    Is this the two networks agreeing that they will look the other way at Biden administration scandals?
    Second, Joe Scarborough made a false equivalence between intelligence leaks about Russian bounties and questions about Hillary Clinton’s unsecured home email server. The two stories don’t compare: In one case, the intelligence communities now question whether the bounties ever occurred. The FBI never doubted that Clinton transmitted and received confidential material over a private email server that she set up inside her home, apparently to circumvent FOIA requests of her official email account. Then-FBI Director James Comey announced that he had recommended against charging the Democratic presidential nominee, during an election she was predicted to win, because he had found no evidence of “intentional misconduct” (although intent is irrelevant under the appropriate federal statute). One case involves a question of the story’s existence; the other turns on officials’ (dubious) legal judgment of acknowledged facts.
    Finally, MSNBC’s own upload of the segment cut out the “final question” — one of six ways the media use and abuse interviews to push their narrative.
    Regardless, this was a welcome discussion of the ways the two left-wing networks have failed their viewers and how to return to bona fide journalism. We’ll be watching — and holding them accountable — over the next four years.

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    you have posted this at least three times you are in violation of forum rules #6 Please wait a reasonable amount of time before bumping posts. Multiple or repeated posting in order to increase your post count is not allowed

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    Prison workers who were guarding Jeffrey Epstein admit to falsifying records — but avoid jail time in deal with prosecutors

    The prison workers who were tasked with guarding Jeffrey Epstein when he committed suicide admitted to falsifying records but they will avoid jail because of the deal they struck with federal prosecutors.
    Authorities said Friday that Tova Noel and Michael Thomas struck a deferred prosecution agreement with prosecutors after being charged with lying on prison records.
    Epstein was awaiting trial at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City when he was found unresponsive in his cell in August 2019. He was under suicide watch and was supposed to be closely monitored to prevent the possibility of his taking his own life.
    Under the agreement with the Justice Department, Noel and Thomas will be subject to a supervised release, will complete 100 hours of community service, and have to cooperate fully with a continuing investigation. The letter from federal prosecutors said the two "admitted that they 'willfully and knowingly completed materially false count and round slips regarding required counts and rounds'" related to Epstein's detention.

    The indictment against Noel and Thomas said they fell asleep and shopped online for furniture and motorcycles instead of checking on Epstein every 30 minutes.
    The incident was blamed on a persistent problem of staffing shortages at the Bureau of Prisons.
    The bizarre circumstances surrounding his suicide have led to a plethora of conspiracy theories. Even Epstein's brother Mark Epstein has said publicly that he doesn't believe the official suicide story.
    "Jeffrey knew a lot of stuff about a lot of people," he said.
    Very soon after the death of Epstein, former President Donald Trump retweeted a claim that Hillary Clinton had the child molester murdered in order to protect her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

    https://youtu.be/I44NbP7I3ig
    His suicide certainly saved a lot of time and a lot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Awwww. You poor victim.

    Look BUTTWIPE I am not trying to claim victim status (unlike many dimwits)

    I am just pointing out EVERYONE fucking cusses... even your beloved leaders of the socialist party.

    do you understand now?

    nice try on trying to twist my words... you failed again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    Look BUTTWIPE I am not trying to claim victim status (unlike many dimwits)

    I am just pointing out EVERYONE fucking cusses... even your beloved leaders of the socialist party.

    do you understand now?

    nice try on trying to twist my words... you failed again.
    You are the one who continues to bring up how unfair people are to you.
    If that isn't claiming victim status, I don't know what is.

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    Liberal pundit Ezra Klein sounds the alarm on the spike in violent crime and how it could help re-elect Trump in 2024

    Vox News co-founder Ezra Klein sounded the alarm about a threat to "the broader liberal project" from the spike in violent crime across America, saying that a voter backlash could help former President Donald Trump win re-election in 2024.
    Klein posted his concerns in a tweet thread citing several examples where Democrats were facing challenges to re-election because of the rise in violent crime.
    "Violent crime is spiking. Homicides in cities were up by 25-40 percent in 2020, the largest single-year increase since 1960. And 2021 isn't looking any better," Klein tweeted.






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    Violent crime is spiking. Homicides in cities were up by 25-40 percent in 2020, the largest single-year increase since 1960. And 2021 isn’t looking any better. This is a crisis on its own terms. But it’s also a crisis for the broader liberal project in two downstream ways.

    "This is a crisis on its own terms. But it's also a crisis for the broader liberal project in two downstream ways," he added.

    "First, violent crimes supercharges inequality. Families who can flee, do. Business close or never open. Banks won't make loans. Property values plummet. Children are traumatized, with lifelong impacts on stress and cognition," Klein continued.
    "Second, fear of violence undermines liberal politics. Just look at America post-9/11. Or after the crime surges of the 70s and 80s and 90s — strongmen politicians win, punitive responses like mass incarceration and warrior policing rise, social trust collapses," he added.

    Klein posted several examples of Democrats facing political hurdles over an increase in crime and then concluded the backlash could help Trump win back the Oval Office in 2024, should he run again.
    "The politics of this could really tip, and not just in cities — if these numbers keep getting worse, then as with Nixon and Reagan in the 70s and 80s, it could bring "law and order" conservatives (including Trump) back to power in 2024," he added.
    Many on the left agreed with Klein's warning while others criticized him for tacitly blaming the 'Defund the Police" effort by progressives.

    https://youtu.be/HG1VbghzI2k

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