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    Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler Explains Why He’ll Defund the Police but Only a Little

    He voted to eliminate the bureau’s Gun Violence Reduction Team. Here, he explains why it was the right decision.

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    '''Defund the police:''' LA City Council moves forward with LAPD budget cuts - ABC7 Los Angeles

    LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Amid mounting calls to "defund the police," the Los Angeles City Council on Tuesday voted to study ways to slash the Los Angeles Police Department's budget by $100 million to $150 million.

    The council voted 11-3 with Councilmen Paul Koretz, Joe Buscaino and John Lee dissenting.

    Although community activists presented their idea for more dramatic reductions in law enforcement spending, the city's Budget and Finance Committee sent the proposal to the full council.

    Supporters of the People's Budget LA told council members Monday morning that Los Angeles needs to rethink its community policing policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Once again you show that you're not educated on the issues that you're talking about and that you don't read.

    The CNN article that I posed CLEARLY said this:

    With the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor at the hands of police and nationwide protests demanding reform, Minneapolis officials announced their intent to defund and disband the city's police force altogether.

    The first step to becoming more informed is admitting that you are wrong and going with the facts. The facts are clear.
    And replace it with "a department of community safety and violence prevention, which will have responsibility for public safety services prioritizing a holistic, public health-oriented approach."
    Sounds a lot like what the police used to be before they became military units, don't ya think?

    The first step to becoming more informed is admitting that you are wrong and going with the facts. The facts are clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    And replace it with "a department of community safety and violence prevention, which will have responsibility for public safety services prioritizing a holistic, public health-oriented approach."
    Sounds a lot like what the police used to be before they became military units, don't ya think?

    The first step to becoming more informed is admitting that you are wrong and going with the facts. The facts are clear.
    Your spin doctor skills need work. You're quickly approaching bsm2 territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    You're quickly approaching bsm2 territory.
    Thanks for your support

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Your spin doctor skills need work. You're quickly approaching bsm2 territory.
    Your deflection skills are becoming EPIC!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Your deflection skills are becoming EPIC!!
    Uh huh.

    Did you read the part in the Phil's article where they said that the person running the new "holistic" department couldn't have any police experience? I forget...you don't like to read !

    I can see it now. A bank robber with a gun is coming out of the bank and the "holistic" officer tells him to come back to the office for coffee and donuts and let's talk about your problems and maybe we can put you in affordable housing so you don't have to rob banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Uh huh.

    Did you read the part in the Phil's article where they said that the person running the new "holistic" department couldn't have any police experience? I forget...you don't like to read !

    I can see it now. A bank robber with a gun is coming out of the bank and the "holistic" officer tells him to come back to the office for coffee and donuts and let's talk about your problems and maybe we can put you in affordable housing so you don't have to rob banks.
    And there you have it. You have pretty much stated the case for the supportive approach. It is well known that if people have support they are less likely to become "bank robbers". Nicely done! (slow clap)

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    And there you have it. You have pretty much stated the case for the supportive approach. It is well known that if people have support they are less likely to become "bank robbers". Nicely done! (slow clap)
    I see. Your solution is to prevent bad folks from ever becoming bad folks.

    That's the problem with too many democrats. They've built this Utopian World that was thought up on some college campus by folks who've done nothing in life other than sitting behind a desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    And there you have it. You have pretty much stated the case for the supportive approach. It is well known that if people have support they are less likely to become "bank robbers". Nicely done! (slow clap)
    ok so all the people that were released from prison 98% of them committed WORSE crimes than the one they went in for.

    Do you really think a bankrobber is going to lay down his gun and listen


    OR do you think the holistic counselor will end up bleeding and die from the criminals wounds?

    knowing how they think I suspect the latter would be the case.

    look at the AntiFake protester that killed the Trump supporter.. he had been arrested two previous times for DRUG - GUN and speeding charges... when he was caught tried to shoot it out with the PoPo... but it didn't end well for him.

    How many of you have seen a counselor? Have you amended your ways that brought you to the counselor?

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