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[SalesServiceGuy]

chris cuomo fake quarantine...

Chris Cuomo has done fantastic work broadcasting through his Covid-19 infection. No other major media personality has done that ... period.

Dr Sanjay Gupta who was on the air monitoring Chris's health every night has done fantastic work.

It is well documented that while afflicted, COVID-19 effects your better judgement. Perhaps, Chris Cuomo did not make the best call in every case.

We know the right leaning media who wants to make him look bad will pounce at every opportunity to help fill up their air time.

Just like the Pelosi ice cream/ freezer flap. A nothing burger wildly exaggerated by right leaning media sources attempting for purely political reasons to discredit her reputation.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Would you kill one healthy person to save the lives of five others who desperately need organ transplants?

A healthcare worker in green scrubs stands in the middle of an intersection, staring down a traffic jam of screaming protesters demanding a return to their livelihoods and liberties.

The photograph, taken Sunday at an "Operation Gridlock" protest in Denver, so clearly captures the tensions of this American moment that it could be ripped from Norman Rockwell's collection. Like the protesters and the healthcare worker, our country is poised, tensely, at a moral crossroads.

A quandary now confronts policymakers across the country: Should we reopen the economy to help the majority or protect the lives of the vulnerable by remaining in lockdown?

One answer to that question -- letting a minority suffer so that the majority may benefit -- is known as utilitarianism. And it's one of the most common, and controversial, ways of making moral choices.

In matters of life and death, like we're in now, strict utilitarianism can be downright dangerous.

"This is a moment when every country in the world is facing the same set of ethical questions and dilemmas,"

"How we answer will be a real test of our humanity and sense of justice."

[Phil B.]

Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab

“Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats,” The Post reported last week.

“The cables have fueled discussions inside the U.S. government about whether this or another Wuhan lab was the source of the virus — even though conclusive proof has yet to emerge.

“In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.”
It’s not just the one article. From a Washington Post editorial, again from last week: “A more troubling explanation is that the coronavirus was inadvertently spread from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which had carried out research on bat coronaviruses and possessed a biosafety level 4 facility, the most secure for handling highly pathogenic and infectious diseases. It is not beyond possibility that an accident or spill occurred.”

It gets worse. Reports indicate a grant from the American government — courtesy of the Obama administration — may have helped fund this research.
According to the U.K. Daily Mail, documents “show the Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan — funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government.
“Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats found in Yunnan’s caves.”

Much like The Post, the Daily Mail noted that while experts say “the balance of scientific advice” is on the side of the virus having originated via bats sold in the wet market, a lab accident is “no longer being discounted.”
Moreover, the Daily Mail reported, citing documents it obtained, scientists at the lab conducted research on coronavirus-infected bats funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health grant. The findings were published in 2017 in a study on the NIH’s website titled: “Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.”

“Bat samplings were conducted ten times from April 2011 to October 2015 at different seasons in their natural habitat at a single location (cave) in Kunming, Yunnan Province, China,” the study reads.
Fox News has confirmed that U.S. taxpayer funding went to the WIV.

“According to public documents compiled by the White Coat Waste Project and shared with Fox News, The Wuhan Institute of Virology has been involved with research funded by $7.1 million worth of U.S. government grants from the National Institutes of Health as it has participated in projects in collaboration with U.S. institutions. One grant for research on bat coronaviruses has received $3.7 million and another grant involving injecting viruses into mice’s brains got $3.4 million,” Fox reported last week.
Fox did note that: “It is not clear exactly how much U.S. funding went directly to the Wuhan Institute of Virology because it worked in collaboration with other institutions on the projects funded by the American grants.”

“The Obama administration gave them a grant of $3.7 million?” he replied, according to the White House transcript of the briefing. “I’ve been hearing about that. And we’ve instructed that if any grants are going to that area — we’re looking at it, literally, about an hour ago, and also early in the morning. We will end that grant very quickly.”
Meanwhile, a letter from the Chinese Embassy in the United Kingdom and published by the Daily Mail condemned any reporting that ties COVID-19 to the WIV.
“Hasty and reckless allegations, such as naming China as the origin in an attempt to shift the blame before any scientific conclusion, is irresponsible and will definitely do harm to international cooperation at this critical time,” the letter said. “China and the UK exchanged views seriously on the origin of the virus and reached consensus.

“In his telephone conversation with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, State Councillor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi pointed out that ‘alarmingly, some people are attempting to politicize the epidemic, label the virus and stigmatize China,'” the letter added.
“Raab expressed the UK’s firm opposition to politicizing the COVID-19 outbreak and fully agrees with China that the source of the virus is a scientific issue that requires professional and science-based assessment.”
Of course, there’s nothing preventing international cooperation if there’s open reporting on the matter — unless, of course, China feels the need to break off that cooperation should a country allow that reporting, which is essentially telling countries that they need to shut down freedom of the press if they expect Chinese assistance.
But then, why should we be surprised that this is how China operates? This is always how China operates. Do as they tell you or else.
So then why, pray tell, did the Obama administration reportedly give the Wuhan Institute of Virology $3.7 million to conduct research into novel coronaviruses? No matter where COVID-19 came from, he owes the American people an explanation.

[srvctec]

social distancing myanmar style
Attachment 45516

Well, except for these people!

[copier addict]

No evidence SARS CoV2 was created in a lab.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin -- ScienceDaily

[slimslob]

things hidden by covid 19 stay at home order

While Everyone Was Distracted By Covid-19, Final Report By UAF Concluded WTC 7 ‘NOT Destroyed by Fires’

While Everyone Was Distracted By Covid-19, Final Report By UAF Concluded WTC 7 -- NOT Destroyed by Fires -- - News Punch

I have yet to see a concrete and girder building implode upon it self, nice and neatly like this one did. Remind you of anything else?

I guess n25an is also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist as well. I watched those buildings collapse. Demoed buildings collapse from the bottom up, not the top down. Aviation fuel burn at a temperature well above that required to weaken structural steel. The second building hit came down first because it ws hit at a lower level and therefore had considerably more weight above the weakened floors.

[bsm2]

Report: Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab

“Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats,” The Post reported last week.

“The cables have fueled discussions inside the U.S. government about whether this or another Wuhan lab was the source of the virus — even though conclusive proof has yet to emerge.

“In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.”
It’s not just the one article. From a Washington Post editorial, again from last week: “A more troubling explanation is that the coronavirus was inadvertently spread from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which had carried out research on bat coronaviruses and possessed a biosafety level 4 facility, the most secure for handling highly pathogenic and infectious diseases. It is not beyond possibility that an accident or spill occurred.”

It gets worse. Reports indicate a grant from the American government — courtesy of the Obama administration — may have helped fund this research.
According to the U.K. Daily Mail, documents “show the Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan — funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government.
“Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats found in Yunnan’s caves.”

Much like The Post, the Daily Mail noted that while experts say “the balance of scientific advice” is on the side of the virus having originated via bats sold in the wet market, a lab accident is “no longer being discounted.”
Moreover, the Daily Mail reported, citing documents it obtained, scientists at the lab conducted research on coronavirus-infected bats funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health grant. The findings were published in 2017 in a study on the NIH’s website titled: “Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.”

“Bat samplings were conducted ten times from April 2011 to October 2015 at different seasons in their natural habitat at a single location (cave) in Kunming, Yunnan Province, China,” the study reads.
Fox News has confirmed that U.S. taxpayer funding went to the WIV.

“According to public documents compiled by the White Coat Waste Project and shared with Fox News, The Wuhan Institute of Virology has been involved with research funded by $7.1 million worth of U.S. government grants from the National Institutes of Health as it has participated in projects in collaboration with U.S. institutions. One grant for research on bat coronaviruses has received $3.7 million and another grant involving injecting viruses into mice’s brains got $3.4 million,” Fox reported last week.
Fox did note that: “It is not clear exactly how much U.S. funding went directly to the Wuhan Institute of Virology because it worked in collaboration with other institutions on the projects funded by the American grants.”

“The Obama administration gave them a grant of $3.7 million?” he replied, according to the White House transcript of the briefing. “I’ve been hearing about that. And we’ve instructed that if any grants are going to that area — we’re looking at it, literally, about an hour ago, and also early in the morning. We will end that grant very quickly.”
Meanwhile, a letter from the Chinese Embassy in the United Kingdom and published by the Daily Mail condemned any reporting that ties COVID-19 to the WIV.
“Hasty and reckless allegations, such as naming China as the origin in an attempt to shift the blame before any scientific conclusion, is irresponsible and will definitely do harm to international cooperation at this critical time,” the letter said. “China and the UK exchanged views seriously on the origin of the virus and reached consensus.

“In his telephone conversation with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, State Councillor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi pointed out that ‘alarmingly, some people are attempting to politicize the epidemic, label the virus and stigmatize China,'” the letter added.
“Raab expressed the UK’s firm opposition to politicizing the COVID-19 outbreak and fully agrees with China that the source of the virus is a scientific issue that requires professional and science-based assessment.”
Of course, there’s nothing preventing international cooperation if there’s open reporting on the matter — unless, of course, China feels the need to break off that cooperation should a country allow that reporting, which is essentially telling countries that they need to shut down freedom of the press if they expect Chinese assistance.
But then, why should we be surprised that this is how China operates? This is always how China operates. Do as they tell you or else.
So then why, pray tell, did the Obama administration reportedly give the Wuhan Institute of Virology $3.7 million to conduct research into novel coronaviruses? No matter where COVID-19 came from, he owes the American people an explanation.

Hilarious Obama's Fault.
Wait wait it was Hillary's Fault.

[n25an]

This article is the definition of clickbait... it starts of making you think its going to tackle a taboo topic and then completely avoids the title...

Would you kill one healthy person to save the lives of five others who desperately need organ transplants?

A healthcare worker in green scrubs stands in the middle of an intersection, staring down a traffic jam of screaming protesters demanding a return to their livelihoods and liberties.

The photograph, taken Sunday at an "Operation Gridlock" protest in Denver, so clearly captures the tensions of this American moment that it could be ripped from Norman Rockwell's collection. Like the protesters and the healthcare worker, our country is poised, tensely, at a moral crossroads.

A quandary now confronts policymakers across the country: Should we reopen the economy to help the majority or protect the lives of the vulnerable by remaining in lockdown?

One answer to that question -- letting a minority suffer so that the majority may benefit -- is known as utilitarianism. And it's one of the most common, and controversial, ways of making moral choices.

In matters of life and death, like we're in now, strict utilitarianism can be downright dangerous.

"This is a moment when every country in the world is facing the same set of ethical questions and dilemmas,"

"How we answer will be a real test of our humanity and sense of justice."

[n25an]

add covid 19 conspiracy theorist to that list...

I guess n25an is also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist as well. I watched those buildings collapse. Demoed buildings collapse from the bottom up, not the top down. Aviation fuel burn at a temperature well above that required to weaken structural steel. The second building hit came down first because it ws hit at a lower level and therefore had considerably more weight above the weakened floors.

[SalesServiceGuy]

This article is the definition of clickbait... it starts of making you think its going to tackle a taboo topic and then completely avoids the title...

The question is from a famous social experiment.

Doctors right now across America are making similar life and death decisions based upon what limited medical resources they have to allocate across multiple patients.

Some states and municipalities are trying to decide if it is safe to reopen their economies while at the same time deeming a certain number of deaths because of that decision is acceptable.

You can read the full lengthy article here describing utilitarianism.

Reopening the country: The dangerous moral arguments behind this movement - CNN