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    Key coronavirus forecast predicts over 410,000 total U.S. deaths by Jan. 1: ‘The worst is yet to come’
    The vaccine is supposed to be out by as early as Oct. It will beat forecasts by about 2-3 years. Trump will receive a big bounce right before the election.

    Dems are trying to convince folks that they will die if they take the vaccine. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    The vaccine is supposed to be out by as early as Oct. It will beat forecasts by about 2-3 years. Trump will receive a big bounce right before the election.

    Dems are trying to convince folks that they will die if they take the vaccine. Wash, rinse, repeat.
    The Trump wish it away miracle will NOT help him nor will it arrive in Oct . No the vaccine will not be ready in Oct as ALL the Experts have already said.

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    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has asked public health officials in the states to prepare to distribute a coronavirus vaccine by late October or early November

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    Neurosurgeon Warns of Serious Risks of Healthy People Wearing Face Masks

    I'm the type of person that makes decisions based on factual information. I would hope that most of us are.
    I understand some people want to wear masks as some places and states are calling for doing so and I understand people wanting to play it safe. I'm not knocking anyone for that.
    But there are things to consider. Dr. Fauci, the Surgeon General, the WHO, the CDC, practically everyone said DO NOT WEAR MASKS for the longest time. Now all of a sudden we're supposed to wear masks? Is it safer? If so, then why were they telling us not to wear them? If it's not safer, then why tell us to wear them?

    Finally, we have a doctor who is willing to speak up about face masks actually being harmful to healthy people.
    Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD reports that wearing masks may actually harm you
    "As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”1 Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission. And, as you have seen, there is no conclusive evidence of their efficiency in controlling flu virus transmission.

    It is also instructive to know that until recently, the CDC did not recommend wearing a face mask or covering of any kind, unless a person was known to be infected, that is, until recently. Non-infected people need not wear a mask. When a person has TB we have them wear a mask, not the entire community of non-infected. The recommendations by the CDC and the WHO are not based on any studies of this virus and have never been used to contain any other virus pandemic or epidemic in history.
    Now that we have established that there is no scientific evidence necessitating the wearing of a face mask for prevention, are there dangers to wearing a face mask, especially for long periods? Several studies have indeed found significant problems with wearing such a mask. This can vary from headaches, to increased airway resistance, carbon dioxide accumulation, to hypoxia, all the way to serious life-threatening complications."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    Neurosurgeon Warns of Serious Risks of Healthy People Wearing Face Masks

    I'm the type of person that makes decisions based on factual information. I would hope that most of us are.
    I understand some people want to wear masks as some places and states are calling for doing so and I understand people wanting to play it safe. I'm not knocking anyone for that.
    But there are things to consider. Dr. Fauci, the Surgeon General, the WHO, the CDC, practically everyone said DO NOT WEAR MASKS for the longest time. Now all of a sudden we're supposed to wear masks? Is it safer? If so, then why were they telling us not to wear them? If it's not safer, then why tell us to wear them?

    Finally, we have a doctor who is willing to speak up about face masks actually being harmful to healthy people.
    Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD reports that wearing masks may actually harm you
    "As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”1 Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission. And, as you have seen, there is no conclusive evidence of their efficiency in controlling flu virus transmission.

    It is also instructive to know that until recently, the CDC did not recommend wearing a face mask or covering of any kind, unless a person was known to be infected, that is, until recently. Non-infected people need not wear a mask. When a person has TB we have them wear a mask, not the entire community of non-infected. The recommendations by the CDC and the WHO are not based on any studies of this virus and have never been used to contain any other virus pandemic or epidemic in history.
    Now that we have established that there is no scientific evidence necessitating the wearing of a face mask for prevention, are there dangers to wearing a face mask, especially for long periods? Several studies have indeed found significant problems with wearing such a mask. This can vary from headaches, to increased airway resistance, carbon dioxide accumulation, to hypoxia, all the way to serious life-threatening complications."

    BS FAKE BS

    CDC calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent COVID-19 spread | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

    CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities. There is increasing evidence that cloth face coverings help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others.

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    Key coronavirus forecast predicts over 410,000 total U.S. deaths by Jan. 1: ‘The worst is yet to come’
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    The U.S. will top more than 410,000 Covid-19 deaths by the end of the year as the country heads into the fall and winter, according to a new forecast from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.


    Covid-19 has already killed at least 186,800 people in the U.S., according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The model by IHME, whose models have previously been cited by the White House and state officials, forecasts that the death toll will more than double by Jan. 1 and could reach as high as 620,000 if states aggressively ease coronavirus restrictions and people disregard public health guidance.


    “The worst is yet to come. I don’t think perhaps that’s a surprise, although I think there’s a natural tendency as we’re a little bit in the Northern hemisphere summer, to think maybe the epidemic is going away,” Dr. Christopher Murray, director of IHME, told reporters on a conference call Friday.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    The vaccine is supposed to be out by as early as Oct. It will beat forecasts by about 2-3 years. Trump will receive a big bounce right before the election.

    Dems are trying to convince folks that they will die if they take the vaccine. Wash, rinse, repeat.
    Have you noticed that every time bsm2 posts something like this the number is larger? And though he may throw in a name or 2 there is never a link to his source for the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    Have you noticed that every time bsm2 posts something like this the number is larger? And though he may throw in a name or 2 there is never a link to his source for the numbers.
    Try Google it Really Really works

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    190,000 Dead Americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post

    Finally, we have a doctor who is willing to speak up about face masks actually being harmful to healthy people.

    "As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”1 Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus.
    That's a good point but fairly obvious to those that are still able to think and use google. Why should a face covering be useless against flu but may as we are told might work against covid, surely the infectious particles are of similar size.

    Incidentally NHS England first said when this when all new that wearing a face mask was unnessasary but has completely reversed that statement.
    When you think you have made a procedure idiot proof your company employs a better idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Try Google it Really Really works
    Try it next time on something you dont believe. you may have been mislead, it really works.
    When you think you have made a procedure idiot proof your company employs a better idiot.

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