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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    masks don't work..

    fuck anybody that tries to tell me they do.

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    Requirements for the Use of
    Face Coverings and Masks
    November 9, 2020 (revised from October 29, 2020)
    North Carolina took early and aggressive action to slow the spread of COVID-19 in our state. These
    actions prevented our healthcare systems from being overwhelmed and provided valuable time to build
    our state’s capacity to respond to this crisis. Now, we are seeing increasing cases and hospitalizations
    from COVID-19 across our state. With more North Carolinians leaving their homes as we ease
    restrictions, the risk for COVID-19 exposure and infection increases.
    We have important goals: to protect our families, friends and neighbors from getting seriously ill, to
    restore our economy and get people back to work, and to get our children back to school. To attain
    these goals, we must remain vigilant and continue to work together to combat the spread of COVID-19
    by taking preventive actions to slow the spread of COVID-19. The preventive actions include the 3 Ws:
    Wear a cloth face covering. Wait 6 feet apart from others. Wash your hands.
    Over the past few months, we have learned a lot about COVID-19 transmission. We know now that
    people who are infected, but do not have symptoms, can infect others by spreading respiratory droplets
    through activities like speaking, coughing, laughing, and singing. New scientific evidence suggests that
    public use of face coverings can help reduce disease transmission. Face coverings are not a substitute for
    other important prevention practices and should be used in addition to staying 6 feet apart, washing
    hands, and staying home when ill.
    This document updates existing NC DHHS guidance for the use of face coverings by the general public
    when outside the home. It mandates that face coverings be worn statewide as outlined below. It is not a
    substitute for existing guidance about social distancing and handwashing.
    Guidance for People
    People must wear face coverings when in public places, indoor or outdoor, where physical distancing of
    six (6) feet from other people who are not members of the same household or residence is not possible.
    These settings include, but are not limited to:
    • Inside of, or in line to enter, any indoor public space, including public schools;
    • Waiting for or riding on public and private multi person transportation, including but not limited to
    buses, taxis, ride sharing, private care service, vans;
    NC DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
    Requirements for the Use of Face Coverings and Masks- November 9, 2020 2
    • Engaged in work, whether at the workplace or performing work off-site, when they are or may be
    within six (6) feet of other people, including working in or walking through common areas, such as
    lobbies, hallways, stairways, elevators, and parking facilities;
    • Obtaining services in a healthcare setting;
    • While outdoors in public spaces when maintaining a physical distance of 6 feet from persons who
    are not members of the same household or residence is not feasible.
    This restriction does not apply to persons while inside their residence or the personal residence of
    another. Face coverings may be removed to participate in a religious ritual.
    Guidance for Businesses
    Certain businesses are required to have patrons and employees wear face coverings whether they are
    inside or outside when they are or may be within six (6) feet of another person, or unless an exception
    applies. Specific occupational settings, including health care settings, should continue to follow existing
    protocols and require surgical or procedure masks or N95 respirators, as indicated.
    These businesses must follow the requirements for face coverings as described in Executive Order 147.
    These businesses, to the extent they are open are:
    • Retail Businesses;
    • Restaurants
    • Personal Care, Grooming, and Tattoo Businesses;
    • Child Care Facilities, Day Camps, and Overnight Camps;
    • Gyms, Exercise Facilities, and Fitness Facilities,
    • State Government Cabinet Agencies;
    • Transportation;
    • High-Density Occupational Settings Where Social Distancing is Difficult, including manufacturing
    settings, construction sites, and migrant farm or other farm settings;
    • Meat or Poultry Processing Plants (new surgical mask requirement);
    • Long Term Care Facilities (new surgical mask requirement);
    • Other Health Care Settings (ongoing adherence to CDC guidance)
    Exceptions. Face Coverings do not need to be worn by an individual, worker, customer, or patron in
    public places and business settings who:
    a. Has a medical or behavioral condition or disability and cannot wear a face covering
    (including, but not limited to, any person who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious
    or incapacitated, or is otherwise unable to put on or remove the face covering without
    assistance);
    NC DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
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    b. Is under five (5) years of age (please see StrongSchoolNC Public Health Toolkit school
    guidance for requirement for requirements for K-12 school settings);
    c. Is actively eating or drinking;
    d. Is strenuously exercising or swimming;
    e. Is seeking to communicate with someone with hearing loss in a way that requires the
    mouth to be visible;
    f. Is giving a speech for a broadcast or to an audience;
    g. Is working at home or alone in a vehicle;
    h. Is temporarily removing his or her Face Covering to secure government or medical
    services or for identification purposes;
    i. Would be at risk from wearing a Face Covering at work, as determined by local, state,
    or federal regulators or workplace safety guidelines;
    j. Has found that his or her Face Covering is impeding visibility to operate equipment or a
    vehicle; or
    k. Is a child whose parent, guardian, or responsible person has been unable to place the
    Face Covering safely on the child’s face.
    l. Children under two (2) years of age should not wear a face covering.
    Frequently Asked Questions
    What is a cloth face covering?
    A cloth face covering is a material that covers the nose and mouth. It can be secured to the head with
    ties or straps or simply wrapped around the lower face. It can be made of a variety of materials, such as
    cotton, silk, or linen. A cloth face covering may be factory-made or sewn by hand or can be improvised
    from household items such as scarfs, T-shirts, sweatshirts, or towels. Ideally, a face covering has two (2)
    or more layers. These face coverings are not intended for use by healthcare providers in the care of
    patients. Surgical Masks, Procedure Masks, and N95 respirators are not recommended for general
    public use or use in community settings, as these should be reserved for specific high-risk occupational
    settings, healthcare providers and other medical first responders in a health care setting.
    Are face shields allowed instead of cloth face coverings?
    No. Based on recommendations from the CDC, face shields do not meet the requirements for face
    coverings.
    When should I wear a cloth face covering?
    You should wear face coverings when in public places, particularly when those locations are indoors or
    in other areas where physical distancing is not possible.
    How should I wear a cloth face covering?
    Be sure to place the face covering over your nose and your mouth and keep it in place at all times while
    you wear it. Be careful not to touch your eyes, nose, and mouth when removing or adjusting a face
    covering and wash hands immediately after removing or adjusting
    How should I care for a cloth face covering?
    Wash your cloth face covering frequently, ideally after each use, or at least daily. Have a bag or bin to
    keep cloth face coverings in until they can be laundered with detergent and hot water and dried on a
    NC DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
    Requirements for the Use of Face Coverings and Masks- November 9, 2020 4
    hot cycle. If you must re-wear your cloth face covering before washing, wash your hands immediately
    after putting it back on and avoid touching your face. Discard cloth face coverings that:
    • No longer cover the nose and mouth
    • Have stretched out or damaged ties or straps
    • Cannot stay on the face
    • Have holes or tears in the fabric
    How well do cloth face coverings work to prevent spread of COVID-19?
    Scientific evidence suggests that use of cloth face coverings by the public during a pandemic can help
    reduce disease transmission. Cloth face coverings can reduce the release of infectious particles into the
    air when someone speaks, coughs, or sneezes. Cloth face coverings are not a substitute for staying six
    (6) feet apart, washing hands, and staying home when ill.
    Do I need to wear a face covering while exercising outdoors?
    No. If you are able to safely maintain at least six (6) feet distance from others, you do not need to wear a
    face covering when exercising outdoors.
    Should children wear cloth face coverings?
    Cloth face coverings should NOT be put on babies and children under the age of 2 because of danger of
    suffocation. Children over the age of 2 should wear cloth face coverings if they can reliably wear,
    remove, and handle cloth face coverings throughout the day.
    What if I am a person with hearing loss and am concerned about not being able to read lips?
    Deaf and Hard of Hearing people often use lipreading to help understand what those around them are
    saying. When people are wearing cloth face coverings, other communication strategies are needed. Try
    finding a cloth face covering that has a clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible, writing notes
    back and forth, writing on a white board to communicate, using a free speech to text app on mobile
    device, and gesturing – or if needed stepping several additional feet back from the person and removing
    face cloth face covering long enough to communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    ask that of bullshitmaster.

    from the start I have provided evidence that masks DON'T work..in fact they can be harmful to some.

    same thing goes with lockdowns.
    It was not aimed at bsm as there are many more that think that way.
    When I talk to people who mention another lockdown and I mention something like is it really worth putting xxx jobs at risk for something maybe twice as dangerous as influenza all I get is blank faces and no answers I might as well have suggested that the earth is flat and mankind never landed on the moon.
    When you think you have made a procedure idiot proof your company employs a better idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    masks don't work..

    fuck anybody that tries to tell me they do.
    No wonder the Military rejected your application

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    ... your comments likely place you in a high risk group for contracting COVID-19.
    Oh I missed that one.........

    And your comments SSG, put you at risk of contracting stupidity if you have not done so already.
    When you think you have made a procedure idiot proof your company employs a better idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skynet View Post
    Oh I missed that one.........

    And your comments put you at risk of contracting stupidity if you have not done so already.
    STUPIDITY is built in to the liberal gene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skynet View Post
    It was not aimed at bsm as there are many more that think that way.
    When I talk to people who mention another lockdown and I mention something like is it really worth putting xxx jobs at risk for something maybe twice as dangerous as influenza all I get is blank faces and no answers I might as well have suggested that the earth is flat and mankind never landed on the moon.
    That's because their to polite to tell you YOUR Nuts

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    DeSantis' actions in September were informed by two of the original authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. It preaches "herd immunity" by allowing those "at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally" and "build up immunity to the virus through natural infection."

    During a video conference with the governor, one of the academics conceded he was not an epidemiologist.

    Dr. Aileen Marty, who is an epidemiologist and infectious disease expert at Florida International University, had some thoughts on the declaration pushed by DeSantis' advisers.

    "It's utter and complete junk," she said, "non-scientific, super dangerous and no worthy scientist or physician would give it a second glance."

    While DeSantis has rejected the "herd immunity" label as descriptive of his philosophy on the virus, his policy has been in line with those advisers, including an emphasis on protecting the vulnerable.

    Seven weeks after the governor huddled with the academics and relaxed restrictions to business and gatherings, the positivity rate for all tests in the state has risen by 60%, now approaching 10% of all test results.

    "As long as people decide to disregard the science," Marty said. "We’re going to continue to see rising cases and we’re going to find ourselves back in a very unpleasant situation."

    It's happening across the plain states and upper Midwest, where governors who previously dismissed mask mandates and business restrictions are adopting them as hospitals are being overrun by COVID patients.

    Thirty-five states have some sort of mask mandate, but not Florida, where DeSantis has forbidden local governments from penalizing those who refuse to wear masks.

    The CDC advises everyone wear masks, to protect both themselves and those they come in contact with.

    Marty said all leaders need to do is lead.

    "All they have to do is convince their populations," she said, to "state that this is serious, ask them to follow the rules and let them know you cannot let a wild virus go loose."

    A request Tuesday for comment from DeSantis for his thoughts on herd immunity, the declaration his advisers created and other coronavirus issues has gone unanswered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    That's because their to polite to tell you YOUR Nuts
    If rational thinking based on evidence from google etc is nuts I think as far as covid is concerned the lunatics have overtaken the asylum. Welcome to 1984.
    When you think you have made a procedure idiot proof your company employs a better idiot.

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